The Chinese balloon over the USA

gut

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 5:04 PM
posted by kizer permanente

Really shocked no one on this site posted this. 


https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3844511-chinese-balloons-flew-over-us-three-times-during-trump-administration-officials/amp/

I've mentioned twice already this has happened before.  Really shocked you didn't read that.

I'd also note a number of senior officials from the Trump admin have denied that story.  But I subscribe the same level of credibility as I did to all the former Obama officials saying Hunter's laptop was Russia disinformation.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 5:05 PM

Kind of surprised in the shoot it down no questions ask crowd. 

Do you not want to examine it, understand what it is?

I'm also pretty sure the air force had a tracking aircraft to block and monitor any signals that is coming from it. 

I'm sure they also checked for any radioactive portion of it. If it did pose an actual threat, I'm pretty sure they would have shot it down. 

Once they determined it didn't pose a threat and are blocking the signals, it is then a when to shoot it down.

There, it is a risk item. Yes, there is not much in Montana, but you do not know where exactly it will land, and why risk it? If you know you are blocking anything and it is not a serious risk, wait until it is over the ocean and knock it down. It's simple risk analysis.

I also agree it made no sense to cancel the planned China trip. 

gut

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 5:13 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

There, it is a risk item. Yes, there is not much in Montana, but you do not know where exactly it will land, and why risk it? If you know you are blocking anything and it is not a serious risk, wait until it is over the ocean and knock it down. It's simple risk analysis.

I generally agree with you, although it doesn't seem like we are going to be able to recover much of anything useful.  But maybe there wasn't anything useful that they cared to examine.

I'd hope we are sophisticated enough to predict where that would come down - I think a sophomore algebra student could probably figure that out within a square a mile.

gut

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 8:14 PM
posted by geeblock

Lol are you surprised tho?


Immediately after I reminded him I had already mentioned it twice?!?

It's a little concerning that you're an educator.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 8:16 PM

I wonder what these balloons are all about.  The Chinese aren’t stupid. They know full well a balloon over the US would be detected.  They’ve done it repeatedly knowing this.  


As a spy balloon, it just doesn’t make any sense. 

gut

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 8:25 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

As a spy balloon, it just doesn’t make any sense. 

That's what people are telling us, though I'm a little skeptical.  Satellites are probably 3-4X further away, at least, and so the sensors here are probably getting much better resolution.  Although I'm sure we were able to jam it, but not sure you could prove that (especially with the evidence broken into thousands of pieces and scattered along the ocean floor).

Rand Paul basically said this is not new and doesn't make much sense.  Not always, but he's often a pretty straight shooter, especially on matters like this.

I'm not sure what the point was, if any.  But when it comes to geopolitics who knows.  I think we can all agree that between the media and polarization of parties, it's a win-win for China regardless of how Biden responded.

Best I can come up with is the classic "pay no attention to the left hand".  China gets the US to focus on a distraction and chase it down a rabbit hole....

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 8:38 PM

Maybe they’re just trolling with no real purpose to it and worst case scenario it just makes one political party mad at the other for how it was handled. 

It’s like you really don’t like your neighbor and he’s always arguing with his wife, so one night you sneak over and leave some empty condom wrappers on the front porch to see what happens. 

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 9:32 PM
posted by gut

I've mentioned twice already this has happened before.  Really shocked you didn't read that.

I'd also note a number of senior officials from the Trump admin have denied that story.  But I subscribe the same level of credibility as I did to all the former Obama officials saying Hunter's laptop was Russia disinformation.

My bad.. I see now you shared this article or one similar.  oh wait….


kizer permanente

Senior Member

Sun, Feb 5, 2023 10:03 PM