Should the students who walk out of school, directing anger at lawmakers over lack of gun reform, be suspended or given detentions?
Absolutely.
Ask one question: Is the school system in support of this or at least willing to give students permission to walk out/stay at home in order to have their voices heard?
If yes, then no punishment. If no, then punishment.
I don't think it matters if they support it or not...if there are rules against walkouts or, at least missing classes then the students should be subject to the consequences of those actions.
Good learning opportunity.
And just so you know......I support their efforts and cause to have their opinions and voices heard.
More down time to eat Tide Pods.
Here is a load of liberal drivel that was issued by the president of a prominent medical university..........completely whacked:
Dear REDACTED Community:
The recent mass shooting in Parkland, Florida, and the others that have preceded it, have given pause to many, particularly our students.
As you may know, students and others around the country are planning walkouts, teach-ins and other protests in the coming weeks to push for solutions to prevent future school shootings.
A nationally organized walkout―#ENOUGH National School Walkout―for students, teachers, school administrators, parents and allies has been planned for Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 10 a.m. The walkout, which will last for 17 minutes (10 - 10:17 a.m.), is designed to engage Congress to pass legislation to keep communities safe from gun violence.
Several REDACTED student groups have asked for REDACTED’s support of their participation in the National School Walk Out. They invite all faculty, staff and students to walk out of class at that time in solidarity.
As a result of this request, we want REDACTED students, staff, faculty, and others to know that the University supports their engagement in matters of importance to them, particularly those things that are of public health and wellness concern, provided that such engagement does not disrupt the University’s ability to educate and operate safely.
Specifically, we support anyone who wants to participate in the #ENOUGH National School Walkout and assure all that grades or any other academic or business decisions will not be impacted in any way, as a result of participation in this peaceful protest.
Sincerely,
President
Please, stop embracing liberal causes, and just teach the subject matter that you are being paid outlandish sums to teach.
I think it is important to encourage, not discourage, political involvement at a young age, no matter the political view. If these kids were walking out for say conservative causes, I would support it. Any measure to get them engaged the political process. Schools should weave in the lessons to show how this is part of the American experiment, that walkouts and demonstrations are American. You can have a good history lesson before or after the walkouts.
They only encourage involvement when it advances liberal views.
If students want to 'walkout' or protest, do it on their own time. Parents pay for the education, do not interfere with that during normal hours.
posted by ptown_trojans_1I think it is important to encourage, not discourage, political involvement at a young age, no matter the political view. If these kids were walking out for say conservative causes, I would support it. Any measure to get them engaged the political process. Schools should weave in the lessons to show how this is part of the American experiment, that walkouts and demonstrations are American. You can have a good history lesson before or after the walkouts.
posted by QuakerOatsThey only encourage involvement when it advances liberal views.
If students want to 'walkout' or protest, do it on their own time. Parents pay for the education, do not interfere with that during normal hours.
Would the feeling be the same if the cause were anti-abortion?
Don’t support it regardless of political party, unless the school allowed it. If the school says no, suspend every student who walks out. Do politics on your own time, especially stupid politics
posted by wkfan
posted by QuakerOatsThey only encourage involvement when it advances liberal views.
If students want to 'walkout' or protest, do it on their own time. Parents pay for the education, do not interfere with that during normal hours.
Would the feeling be the same if the cause were anti-abortion?
Yeah, I would support them, cause then you can also teach the kids the history of Roe v. Wade and demonstrations for and against the topic.
Again, any way to get the kids involved in the political process is good.
Schools are funded to educate on school grounds. I support anyone's right to protest, speak out, walk out, whatever the fuck you want.
But when that interferes with the goal to educate, prepare to suffer the consequences.
If you’re paying into local, state or federal taxes, productive legal citizen without a criminal record, providing an example of good citizenship, never bullied anyone, preparing to enter the military, have a driver licence, 18 years old, able to graduation your senior year… you’ve earn some rights to walk out other than that STFU and sit down and learn. Wait your turn and grow up it will come soon enough, and you’re not prepared yet or may never be.
Go get 'em kids, bans are definitely the way to go on the gun issue.
Sincerely,
Drugs
one of the better posts I read today...
Students are walking out of school to protest gun violence. Who's minds are they trying to change? Is there anybody who is for gun violence? Wouldn't be better to help your fellow students, stop bullying other kids and just respect each other and try to change it every day instead of walking out one day to try and bring attention to yourself over something everyone is aware of?
posted by vball10setone of the better posts I read today...
It doesn't have to be either/or. You can help your classmates, be involved in politics and voice your opinions.
posted by HereticAsk one question: Is the school system in support of this or at least willing to give students permission to walk out/stay at home in order to have their voices heard?
If yes, then no punishment. If no, then punishment.
So the students are allowed to protest as long as those in a position of authority agree with them? That makes the right to protest kind of meaningless doesn't it? What happens when they protest against required vaccinations? Or shitty lunches? Or grades being unfair for stupid people?
posted by FatHobbitSo the students are allowed to protest as long as those in a position of authority agree with them? That makes the protest kind if meaningless doesn't it? What happens when they protest against required vaccinations? Or shitty lunches? Or grades being unfair for stupid people?
The protest IS meaningless. These kids are too dumb to grasp the full argument in the first place. But it is a school, you follow the rules, you don't get to be free from punsihment.
posted by FatHobbitSo the students are allowed to protest as long as those in a position of authority agree with them? That makes the right to protest kind of meaningless doesn't it? What happens when they protest against required vaccinations? Or shitty lunches? Or grades being unfair for stupid people?
I'd say the key would be to include those in authority and not simply protest/walk out against their wishes. Since it's a school where those in authority do have legit control (in theory) over the kids, going against them and not working with them could lead to suspensions, detentions or whatever.
Really, your post doesn't make much sense. The students aren't protesting against those people in authority like they would be in the examples you gave. They're posting against something (shootings) that would also affect those same people in authority, so it kind of comes down to whether those people in authority support their protest. If they do, cool; if they don't, it's up to the kids as to whether they're willing to accept the consequences.
posted by FatHobbitSo the students are allowed to protest as long as those in a position of authority agree with them? That makes the right to protest kind of meaningless doesn't it?
The word you're looking for is "authoritarian".
How about Baltimore public schools spending over 100K to send students to DC?
posted by Fab4RunnerIt doesn't have to be either/or. You can help your classmates, be involved in politics and voice your opinions.
This goes without saying, and the OP was just pointing out that there are better ways to voice your opinion than walking out of class in the middle of a school day. I don't see how that could've been misunderstood.
posted by like_thatHow about Baltimore public schools spending over 100K to send students to DC?
That's money well spent - let them march, riot and tear up someone else's city
Justin, I apologize if this was posted in the wrong place. Suppose it belongs under politics.
posted by like_thatHow about Baltimore public schools spending over 100K to send students to DC?
This brought the lawlz when I read about it. Clean up your own murderous city (with pistols) before you start complaining about something else. Morons
posted by like_thatHow about Baltimore public schools spending over 100K to send students to DC?
Far better than using it to fix buildings with no heat.