Solo: A Star Wars Movie Spoilers.....

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 9:38 AM

I don't know if this thread will get much traction, but since many will be confused with the fact that Darth Maul is shown at the end and the timeline of this movie is AFTER Revenge of the Sith...

 

First question comes up "wait, Maul died in Phantom Menace when Obi Wan chopped him in half".

 

Well, if you watched the cartoon series (and I haven't, plan to but have not yet) Clone Wars and now Rebels, you would get a large background on this sudden new twist...

 

Maul didn't die...story goes he used the dark side of the force to "hold himself" together, eventually got spider like (6 or 8) legs to crawl around, somehow eventually got humanoid like legs, but setup/ran a crime syndicate similar to the one we see in Solo.

 

So they used his story line in Clone Wars/Rebels to bring him back to the big screen since he was running a crime syndicate.

In the cartoons I guess he had some more run ins with Obi Wan and eventually even the Emperor. Like I said, I haven't watched them just have a little bit of knowledge about Maul's story in them. I tried to watch them but they were boring (I did hear they got better after season 1 Clone Wars which is where I stalled...too much like Phantom Menace crap) so I may go watch them sometime.

FatHobbit

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 2:23 PM

I loved the clone wars. I also loved episodes 1-3 but thought they didn't need 3 movies to make their point. In the original movies, I never understood why anyone gave a shit about redeeming Darth Vader. He was the bad guy. And I really didn't care that obi wan died. Episode 1-3 made me appreciate obi wan. The clone wars made me appreciate Anakin. 

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 2:42 PM
posted by FatHobbit

I loved the clone wars. I also loved episodes 1-3 but thought they didn't need 3 movies to make their point. In the original movies, I never understood why anyone gave a shit about redeeming Darth Vader. He was the bad guy. And I really didn't care that obi wan died. Episode 1-3 made me appreciate obi wan. The clone wars made me appreciate Anakin. 

I plan on picking it up on Netflix again. Maybe by time I finish all 5 seasons of Clone Wars they will have at least 1 season of Rebels (which I hear is even better than Clone Wars) on Netflix.

Laley23

GOAT

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 9:24 PM

I assumed when Maul showed up this was before those 3 films. 

thavoice

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 9:39 PM

I enjoyed the movie. Was different going to a SW movie without Jedi, The Force, The rebellion and empire as we know it.

It was entertaining.

Read weeks ago the guy playing solo signed on for three films so he likely will be in other standalones from that time period.

I musta missed it but..when did he get the dice back?

 

Now to EP 9 next year. Exicted Abrams  back at doing it.

Laley23

GOAT

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 10:17 PM
posted by thavoice

I enjoyed the movie. Was different going to a SW movie without Jedi, The Force, The rebellion and empire as we know it.

It was entertaining.

Read weeks ago the guy playing solo signed on for three films so he likely will be in other standalones from that time period.

I musta missed it but..when did he get the dice back?

 

Now to EP 9 next year. Exicted Abrams  back at doing it.

Before entering the mine. When Qi’ra punched him, she gave them back to him,

thavoice

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 10:22 PM
posted by Laley23

Before entering the mine. When Qi’ra punched him, she gave them back to him,

Man, all three of us missed that. Kept waiting for it the whole time.

Thanks.

 

Laley23

GOAT

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 10:47 PM
posted by thavoice

Man, all three of us missed that. Kept waiting for it the whole time.

Thanks.

 

He opened his hand, and had them in there!! Then  camera cut to her face with a wry smile back to him.

thavoice

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 15, 2018 10:57 PM
posted by Laley23

He opened his hand, and had them in there!! Then  camera cut to her face with a wry smile back to him.

Gotcha.

You see that a few props from Indiana Jones, Raiders lost arc, movie was in this Solo?
The fertility idol>?

bigorangebuck22

Senior Member

Sat, Jun 16, 2018 1:12 AM
posted by jmog

I plan on picking it up on Netflix again. Maybe by time I finish all 5 seasons of Clone Wars they will have at least 1 season of Rebels (which I hear is even better than Clone Wars) on Netflix.

I have doubts Rebels ends on Netflix with Disney starting their own streaming service. It's on watchdisneyxd as of now.  And yes, Rebels is very good.

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

Sat, Jun 16, 2018 10:35 PM
posted by Laley23

I assumed when Maul showed up this was before those 3 films. 

That would make Han REALLY old.  Older than Anakin. 

jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Jun 18, 2018 8:37 AM
posted by Laley23

I assumed when Maul showed up this was before those 3 films. 

Nope, Solo is set after Episode 3 but before Rogue One...

jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Jun 18, 2018 8:39 AM
posted by thavoice

I enjoyed the movie. Was different going to a SW movie without Jedi, The Force, The rebellion and empire as we know it.

It was entertaining.

Read weeks ago the guy playing solo signed on for three films so he likely will be in other standalones from that time period.

I musta missed it but..when did he get the dice back?

 

Now to EP 9 next year. Exicted Abrams  back at doing it.

She gave them to him near the end, can't remember the exact point but since I saw the dice early in the movie I was looking for it.

Laley23

GOAT

Mon, Jun 18, 2018 9:49 AM
posted by ernest_t_bass

That would make Han REALLY old.  Older than Anakin. 

Yeah, but it would be easier to explain than Darth Maul still being alive. That’s just stupid.

jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Jun 18, 2018 10:30 AM
posted by Laley23

Yeah, but it would be easier to explain than Darth Maul still being alive. That’s just stupid.

It was already explained in the two cartoon series that the vast majority of people who have watched the movies haven't watched...

 

That's the problem, the vast majority of people who have seen all of the Star Wars movies (8 episodes and the two stories) have not watched these two cartoon series (Clone Wars and Rebels), including myself.

 

Now, I am slightly more interested in Star Wars universe than the average SW movie watcher so I knew Maul was alive just from looking up things on the internet. 

 

 

Laley23

GOAT

Mon, Jun 18, 2018 7:43 PM
posted by jmog

It was already explained in the two cartoon series that the vast majority of people who have watched the movies haven't watched...

 

That's the problem, the vast majority of people who have seen all of the Star Wars movies (8 episodes and the two stories) have not watched these two cartoon series (Clone Wars and Rebels), including myself.

 

Now, I am slightly more interested in Star Wars universe than the average SW movie watcher so I knew Maul was alive just from looking up things on the internet. 

 

 

Yeah, I get that. My point is, whatever reason they gave/give will be terrible. He was killed. End of argument. 

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

Mon, Jun 18, 2018 8:14 PM
posted by Laley23

Yeah, I get that. My point is, whatever reason they gave/give will be terrible. He was killed. End of argument. 

In the movies that everyone saw.  In the movies that no one saw, it is explained that he never died.  I don't get why that is hard to understand (I've never seen the cartoons)

Laley23

GOAT

Mon, Jun 18, 2018 8:55 PM
posted by ernest_t_bass

In the movies that everyone saw.  In the movies that no one saw, it is explained that he never died.  I don't get why that is hard to understand (I've never seen the cartoons)

What? I get he has been living on and is a big part of the cartoons and such. Doesn’t make it any more dumb that he was sliced in half as is somehow alive. My point is, no explanation will make that not dumb. He should be dead. If they didn’t want to kill him, have him “die” in a different way in AOTC. 

Being cut in half and still living is just idiotic. Why didn’t Obi-Wan go get robot bottom half when Vader sliced him? 

jmog

Senior Member

Thu, Jun 21, 2018 10:29 AM
posted by Laley23

What? I get he has been living on and is a big part of the cartoons and such. Doesn’t make it any more dumb that he was sliced in half as is somehow alive. My point is, no explanation will make that not dumb. He should be dead. If they didn’t want to kill him, have him “die” in a different way in AOTC. 

Being cut in half and still living is just idiotic. Why didn’t Obi-Wan go get robot bottom half when Vader sliced him? 

No different than when Anakin was not dead and was given cybernetics. He was just as messed up as Darth Maul was when Obi Wan left him.

 

The key here though is that it is quite obvious Obi Wan is terrible at actually killing anyone, he leaves them for dead and they come back as cyber enhanced monsters (Anakin/Vader and Maul).