New California declares independence from California

justincredible

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 10:25 AM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/01/16/new-california-declares-independence-california-bid-become-51st-state/1036681001/

I was a fan of the 6 state option from a couple years ago, so I absolutely welcome this as well and wish them luck. Certainly nothing will come of it, but I like seeing these initiatives pop-up from time to time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

j_crazy

7 gram rocks. how i roll.

Wed, Jan 17, 2018 10:34 AM

oh. crazy people saying crazy shit. how surprising!

justincredible

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 10:38 AM

I'm curious as to what makes this so crazy?

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Jan 17, 2018 10:40 AM

Other than it's complete unlikelihood, of course.

Spock

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 10:59 AM

many of it’s 58 Counties have become ungovernable,

 

Really?  You think it might be from illegals?

QuakerOats

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 10:59 AM

I am all for this ..............ironically I posted this an hour ago on the political forum under dusgusted with progressives thread.

Spock

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 11:00 AM

I say we let them and dont give them any federal money

MontyBrunswick

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 11:16 AM
posted by Spock

 

Really?  You think it might be from illegals?

or it could be from the fact that a vast majority of the wealth and power comes from a concentrated portion of the state, resulting in everything else getting neglected.

 

 

justincredible

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 11:17 AM
posted by MontyBrunswick

or it could be from the fact that a vast majority of the wealth and power comes from a concentrated portion of the state, resulting in everything else getting neglected.

This. 

Commander of Awesome

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:15 PM

Old Cali keeps all the money, good riddance.

like_that

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:31 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Old Cali keeps all the money, good riddance.

What's the line of thinking on this?  Silicon Valley?  Hollywood?

justincredible

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:34 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Old Cali keeps all the money, good riddance.

Not to mention all the smug self-importance.

Commander of Awesome

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:43 PM
posted by justincredible

Not to mention all the smug self-importance.

Main export.

Commander of Awesome

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:43 PM
posted by like_that

What's the line of thinking on this?  Silicon Valley?  Hollywood?

Cities

majorspark

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:46 PM

New Cali gets all the food.

justincredible

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:47 PM
posted by majorspark

New Cali gets all the food.

And cannabis. And natural beauty. And San Diego. I think New Cali would do just fine on its own.

Commander of Awesome

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:49 PM

I still like the Mike Polk succession plan. I'd vote for it.

majorspark

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:52 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

I still like the Mike Polk succession plan. I'd vote for it.

Only way New Cali ever happens.

like_that

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 3:52 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Cities

New California wouldn’t be too bad with San Diego and San Jose. Not to mention old California has 2 cities that went bankrupt and one very close to it. Unless I’m looking at the map incorrectly.

Id also be wary of banking on the tech companies.

gut

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 4:12 PM

Two comments:

1) Even just 2 more Senate seats (likely red) is a shitstorm that will never be agreed on, but possibly displace guns and abortion as the two biggest do-nothing wedge issues in politics.....a "six state" solution is even more untenable for the same reason

2) Also a huge pension liability issue....and one wonders if the rest of IL, for example, wouldn't want to carve out Chicago and it's burbs.  Same for NY.

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 17, 2018 4:15 PM
posted by like_that

Id also be wary of banking on the tech companies.

Obviously a concentration and critical mass in Silicon Valley.....but Austin, Chicago and some other cities have been very successful at luring existing and start-up tech companies.

majorspark

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 4:20 PM
posted by gut

Two comments:

1) Even just 2 more Senate seats (likely red) is a shitstorm that will never be agreed on, but possibly displace guns and abortion as the two biggest do-nothing wedge issues in politics.....a "six state" solution is even more untenable for the same reason

Also two more electoral votes.

justincredible

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 4:21 PM

Lots of tech popping up in the Midwest.

justincredible

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 4:26 PM

At some point in my lifetime I think there will be a pretty big shakeup in how the United States looks. Either a new state (or multiples) will form from the existing 50 splitting up, or the United States will dissolve into a few smaller nations. 

like_that

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 4:35 PM
posted by justincredible

At some point in my lifetime I think there will be a pretty big shakeup in how the United States looks. Either a new state (or multiples) will form from the existing 50 splitting up, or the United States will dissolve into a few smaller nations. 

I don’t know about few smaller nations, but definitely could see some of the bigger states splitting up.

majorspark

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Wed, Jan 17, 2018 4:38 PM

When can we do away with the "known to California" warnings to cause something bad to happen to me?