Jury Duty

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:49 AM
posted by kizer permanente

I mean... you already have a whole advertising/campaining platform (ohiochatter.com)

LMAO. I might get 2 votes from the 17 active members.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:54 AM

Some reporter questions me on something I’ve posted online and I tell them to GFT. Honestly, that might garner some support. I think I’d have to quit my job, anyway, because I work for a corporate media company. I think it’s against company policy. 

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 27, 2022 11:09 AM
posted by justincredible

I don't know if a scenario like this is even possible, but if I'm serving on a jury of someone busted with psychedelics or more weed than is just a civil offense, I can't in good conscience say "guilty, send them to jail." 

This. Nothing other than harming another human's person or property should be illegal. I'm not sending someone to prison because there are people who disagree with that view.

Devils Advocate

Brudda o da bomber

Tue, Sep 27, 2022 12:56 PM

Oh….. so you think killing baby seals is ok.


‘Mercia.    Home of the free Bambi killers.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Tue, Sep 27, 2022 1:00 PM

Had one summons, but got out of it due to how, upon checking the court's website the night before (as instructed per said summons), it said that the case was settled or plea bargained or whatever, so I got a "get out of jail free" card on that shit. Which was good -- the weekend before was a race track weekend and Monday usually can be a busy day at work, so I'd have spent the entire day pissed off at how I have to go through selection proceedings while hung over AND also have to get shit done for work. Nothing is worth that sort of annoyance, especially not buzzwords like "civic duty".

BRF

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 27, 2022 2:40 PM

I’ve only had jury duty three times in my long ass life. I ended up never having served on one. I was excused once because I knew the attorney. The last time I received notice, the pandemic shut down came and that was that. 

My wife was seated for jury duty about 15 years ago on a slam dunk murder trial. She came home after day one and said she had to go back the next day because the first vote was 11-1. I asked her why she voted not guilty. (She is like sportchampps wife)

I remember when I was excused for duty, I got paid for showing up and had to hand my check over to the school board. 😡

Fred Garvin

Senior Member

Wed, Sep 28, 2022 11:16 AM

My company does not pay if you are on jury duty. I know it could be a hardship for smaller companies, but across the board I feel that employees should be paid for that.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Sep 28, 2022 4:37 PM

I was on a jury many, many years ago -- burglary.  The guy was guilty and we found him guilty; the evidence was overwhelming.  However, after several hours of deliberation the first vote was something like 10-2 guilty.  At some point after further discussion it was 11-1.  Then we reconvened with the judge and all parties for a few questions.  When we returned to deliberations we had another vote and were finally unanimous with the guilty verdict.  We asked the holdout what changed her mind,  she said we went back into the courtroom she looked at him (perp) and could tell he was guilty ............ JFC.   So you were looking at him all week, plus had all the overwhelming evidence necessary, but it took a full day of deliberations and then you finally looked at him again and just knew ......... wow.   Moral of the story, juries NEED good, reasonable, smart people to serve, don't try to get out of it. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:57 PM

It's finally my turn and I do have to report to the courthouse on Monday.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 4:44 PM

I've been summoned twice, and both times I called in the day before and was notified I was not needed.

I wouldn't mind serving once just to see what it's like.  But there's always that fear that you end-up on some high-profile months long case.

I think you can get out if you're a key employee or serve clients (like a lawyer or consultant).  Otherwise, a lot of companies will put you on unpaid leave and I think jury duty pays like $10 per day.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 4:49 PM

I think I get $19/day.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 5:07 PM
posted by justincredible

I think I get $19/day.

Before tax :)

Do you at least get a free lunch?

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 5:09 PM
posted by Fred Garvin

My company does not pay if you are on jury duty. I know it could be a hardship for smaller companies, but across the board I feel that employees should be paid for that.

That’s bullshit that they don’t pay.  They operate under the protection of the US justice system but then offer nothing for the common good.  Corporate bullshit.


Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 5:40 PM
posted by justincredible

It's finally my turn and I do have to report to the courthouse on Monday.

Thoughts and prayers.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 6:24 PM
posted by gut

Before tax :)

Do you at least get a free lunch?

Negative. Gotta pay for parking and buy my own lunch.


queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 6:29 PM
posted by justincredible

It's finally my turn and I do have to report to the courthouse on Monday.

Hope you get a drug case.

Ironman92

Administrator

Fri, Oct 21, 2022 8:16 PM

It’s insane anything has to be paid for

jmog

Senior Member

Sun, Oct 23, 2022 9:19 AM

I always wanted to get called, do my civic duty, plus always was interested in court tv shows and movies. 


My mom had been on 2 different tough cases in the past (a murder and a rape case). 


So I get called…I get put on a jury….


It’s a woman suing Marc’s grocery store for pain and suffering because her cart went to fall over and she twisted her back when she tried to catch it.


I wish I was kidding, 3 total days of my life I will never get back.


Jury took a total of 15 min to side with Marc’s…and 12 of those minutes were basically reading over evidence again to waste time just to make it look like we didn’t have our mind already made up.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Sun, Oct 23, 2022 1:06 PM

posted by jmog

I always wanted to get called, do my civic duty, plus always was interested in court tv shows and movies. 


My mom had been on 2 different tough cases in the past (a murder and a rape case). 


So I get called…I get put on a jury….


It’s a woman suing Marc’s grocery store for pain and suffering because her cart went to fall over and she twisted her back when she tried to catch it.


I wish I was kidding, 3 total days of my life I will never get back.


Jury took a total of 15 min to side with Marc’s…and 12 of those minutes were basically reading over evidence again to waste time just to make it look like we didn’t have our mind already made up.

Oh my, lol!

The dark side of jury duty: You think you're being summoned to do something significant and help provide justice for some heinous act...and what you actually get is some random nobody trying to scam a business as her latest get-rich scheme.


jmog

Senior Member

Sun, Oct 23, 2022 4:06 PM
posted by Heretic

Oh my, lol!

The dark side of jury duty: You think you're being summoned to do something significant and help provide justice for some heinous act...and what you actually get is some random nobody trying to scam a business as her latest get-rich scheme.


Exactly what the case was.


Her lawyer, once Marc’s showed them the maintenance records of the shopping carts months before the trial, should have told her we have no case and if you want to continue you will need a new attorney.


The law, as the judge read it to us, is that Marc’s had to be proven negligent by never doing routine maintenance on the carts. So case was over as soon as the maintenance records were shown.


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Mon, Oct 24, 2022 10:01 AM
posted by gut

Before tax :)

Do you at least get a free lunch?


No such thing

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Mon, Oct 24, 2022 10:02 AM

TANSTAAFL. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Mon, Oct 24, 2022 11:00 AM

I did not get called to the first jury. About 1/3 of the group here today did. 

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Mon, Oct 24, 2022 11:51 AM

Called twice.

The first was for someone who was visiting a "friend" who stole that person's purse on their way out. It seemed fairly clear cut, but it also seemed as if several jurors were more concerned about getting done fast than to do the job. For that reason, I was one of the dissenters in a 10-2 initial vote. After reviewing the evidence, we convicted.

The second was a capital murder case that was expected to take a fair amount of time. The small company I was working for had just signed a major client and I was going to lead the project, and I was excused for that reason.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Mon, Oct 24, 2022 1:43 PM

Laley's post changed my perspective on jury duty.  Credit to him.