It's official. I'm fucking out of here. Packing up a rented soccer mom van and driving to Denver at the end of the month. 

Bittersweet, but I'm very hyped to leave. NYC is a prison and I'm losing my mind. 10 years and I've accomplished what I came to do. 

Thinking about the actual move is giving me anxiety. I have 16 days to get it done and starting this weekend. I'm only bringing essentials and the rest of my belongings are going into storage. 

I plan on staying at my parents condo solo for 6 weeks, then freeloading off of my sister for 2 months....then my own short term place summer to early fall. Maybe then I'll head to the mountains for the winter.

First time since high school that I'm not locked into a living/lease agreement. Feels liberating! 

Good to hear. 

Well done! Did you end up buying a vehicle?

Not yet. I can't make a purchase until mid-late April. I have use of a car until then. Right now I'm just getting my ducks in a row, establishing residence, getting CO license, etc. 

95% going with a 4Runner, probably a 2021. I'm going to stick with the broker. The process is been so simple and tailored, would recommend.

Congrats.

Spend the winter in Crested Butte it’s bea

posted by Automatik

 NYC is a prison 

INB4 QO or like highlights this as evidence of the failure of the American experiment due to the "Marxist Left".

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

INB4 QO or like highlights this as evidence of the failure of the American experiment due to the "Marxist Left".

Is that not true with statistical evidence?  NY, CA, IL, MI, PA are among the leaders in population fleeing.  Maybe I am misunderstand what is going on there.

I heard 1000 a day are moving to Florida. Not sure what the rate was in previous times.

posted by Verbal Kint

Is that not true with statistical evidence?  NY, CA, IL, MI, PA are among the leaders in population fleeing.  Maybe I am misunderstand what is going on there.

No idea about the others, but in my case paying a premium price to live somewhere and not being able to enjoy what comes along with it is the worst. 

The kicker is getting paid an NYC salary and being able to NOT live in NYC. City taxes...goodbye. State tax obviously less. This is the main driver of why I'm out. 

I read a random article saying 100k a month are moving into the state of CO. 

posted by Verbal Kint

Is that not true with statistical evidence?  NY, CA, IL, MI, PA are among the leaders in population fleeing.  Maybe I am misunderstand what is going on there.

I think it's mostly about taxes, at least in the case of NY and CA.  Although there have been more than a few articles about people struggling financially who are hoping to move somewhere cheaper and keep working remotely.

But I'm not sure how many people will get to keep working remotely.  I'd say it depends on the business.  And, uh, if companies find more of their employees can work remotely than they imagined, they'll start thinking about outsourcing to much smarter and cheaper folks overseas.

posted by Verbal Kint

Is that not true with statistical evidence?  NY, CA, IL, MI, PA are among the leaders in population fleeing.  Maybe I am misunderstand what is going on there.

I'm sure it is true. I just literally wanted to get a comment in before QO posted his "I'm disgusted" replies. 

posted by Automatik

No idea about the others, but in my case paying a premium price to live somewhere and not being able to enjoy what comes along with it is the worst. 

The kicker is getting paid an NYC salary and being able to NOT live in NYC. City taxes...goodbye. State tax obviously less. This is the main driver of why I'm out. 

I read a random article saying 100k a month are moving into the state of CO. 

Pretty much (pre covid), why I was over DC.  Even if I didn't get this current job in Italy, we were planning to move to another state.  We were paying a premium to live in DC and our friends were starting to get lame.  Social benefits were no longer worth the price.

posted by Automatik

It's official. I'm fucking out of here. Packing up a rented soccer mom van and driving to Denver at the end of the month. 

Bittersweet, but I'm very hyped to leave. NYC is a prison and I'm losing my mind. 10 years and I've accomplished what I came to do. 

Thinking about the actual move is giving me anxiety. I have 16 days to get it done and starting this weekend. I'm only bringing essentials and the rest of my belongings are going into storage. 

I plan on staying at my parents condo solo for 6 weeks, then freeloading off of my sister for 2 months....then my own short term place summer to early fall. Maybe then I'll head to the mountains for the winter.

First time since high school that I'm not locked into a living/lease agreement. Feels liberating! 

Congrat's on your freedom.  Welcome to America!

Good luck!

I was born and raised in America, but ty!

posted by Automatik

No idea about the others, but in my case paying a premium price to live somewhere and not being able to enjoy what comes along with it is the worst. 

The kicker is getting paid an NYC salary and being able to NOT live in NYC. City taxes...goodbye. State tax obviously less. This is the main driver of why I'm out. 

I read a random article saying 100k a month are moving into the state of CO. 

Nice the cost of living salary follows you, enjoy the fresh air in CO.

posted by gut

I think it's mostly about taxes, at least in the case of NY and CA.  Although there have been more than a few articles about people struggling financially who are hoping to move somewhere cheaper and keep working remotely.

But I'm not sure how many people will get to keep working remotely.  I'd say it depends on the business.  And, uh, if companies find more of their employees can work remotely than they imagined, they'll start thinking about outsourcing to much smarter and cheaper folks overseas.

I find that there is a collelation between the philosophy of the elected officials and the amount of taxes imposed on the population in that state.  I can see southern CA and NYC being worth it to some to pay that cost of living for the benefits of either weather or social scene.  Don't find the same reasons for metro cities in Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

The move is complete.

Wow, what a fucking drive. Kansas....THE WORST.

posted by Automatik

The move is complete.

Wow, what a fucking driver. Kansas....THE WORST.

Never driven through, but I've heard it's flat and boring.

It makes Illinois look like Vegas.

I've never seen anything so desolate and flat. Also very very windy. Didn't see a single cop the entire drive through the state.

You go right through the the Smoky Hills Wind Farm, so that was cool.

So the "we're not in Kansas anymore" phrase now has real meaning.

posted by Automatik

It makes Illinois look like Vegas.

I've never seen anything so desolate and flat. Also very very windy. Didn't see a single cop the entire drive through the state.

You go right through the the Smoky Hills Wind Farm, so that was cool.

The amount of wind farms in Illinois is stunning

posted by Automatik

The move is complete.

Wow, what a fucking driver. Kansas....THE WORST.

I have a friend who has a son in Colorado and when he goes out to visit, he drives. He has the same opinion of Kansas. Just a state to hammer down the pedal, zone out and wait for it to end, from what I gather.

posted by Verbal Kint

Nice the cost of living salary follows you, enjoy the fresh air in CO.

air quality in denver is poor, at best. probably an upgrade from NYC but probably not by a wide margin.

also can confirm driving through kansas is terrible. worthless state.

Not that I really care, but currently rated "good."

I'm out of the subways, so I'm sure this is signficantly better.

posted by Automatik

It makes Illinois look like Vegas.

I've never seen anything so desolate and flat. Also very very windy. Didn't see a single cop the entire drive through the state.

You go right through the the Smoky Hills Wind Farm, so that was cool.

How long did it take you to get through the state?