https://www.toledoblade.com/opinion/editorials/2018/10/25/president-donald-trump-caravan-migrants-mexico-honduras/stories/20181024159?abnpageversion=evoke

Not sure what the article said but the idea that 10,000 spotaniously started this journey is laughable.  I would bet money that big $ and foreign governments are behind this to smear Pubs.  

Turn their ass around.

They won’t make it to Veracruz unless Soros brings in 100 Greyhounds.

posted by Spock

Not sure what the article said  

Try reading it...

posted by like_that

Try reading ...

He can’t 

So you guys are positing that “the left” or the “radical progressives” or the “dems” or whatever you’re currently calling this monster - which is not competent enough to run basic federal functions - has somehow managed to orchestrate a caravan of thousands of men, women and children to walk away over a thousand miles to get to the US all without getting caught orchestrating it?  Now that is impressive. I’d put it right up there with George W Bush, a man who was supposedly incapable of spelling his own name, orchestrating the 9/11 attacks after 8 short months in office. 

I love the theory the D party orchestrated the caravan. The D party have been totally incompetent the last 10 years, yet they can organize this thousands of miles away. 

I think the story of overblown as it is only a story if they actually get near the border. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

So you guys are positing that “the left” or the “radical progressives” or the “dems” or whatever you’re currently calling this monster - which is not competent enough to run basic federal functions - has somehow managed to orchestrate a caravan of thousands of men, women and children to walk away over a thousand miles to get to the US all without getting caught orchestrating it?  Now that is impressive. I’d put it right up there with George W Bush, a man who was supposedly incapable of spelling his own name, orchestrating the 9/11 attacks after 8 short months in office. 

No, it was just spontaneous, sparked by a Youtube video or something

posted by QuakerOats

 

No, it was just spontaneous, sparked by a Youtube video or something

Or...I don't know maybe they want to flee the violence and gangs in their own country and wanted to be in groups to protect themselves for the journey. 

That's more plausible than the crazy theory the Ds paid for it. 

The idea that it was not in some measure "sponsored" from outside the country is either delusional or dishonest.

posted by QuakerOats

 

No, it was just spontaneous, sparked by a Youtube video or something

I get you sarcasm. So any theories on how Hillary, Obama, Soros & Co. pulled this together?  Wait - maybe they sent themselves poorly-built pipe bombs as a diversionary tactic. Yes, that’s it. And you know, I bet Obama was the pipe builder. He always has said he’s not too mechanically inclined. Yeah. He did a poor job on those. But otherwise it’s been a great operation. I bet Ruth Ginsberg was the boots-on-the ground handling logistics. And the NYT provided snacks and water. 

posted by queencitybuckeye

The idea that it was not in some measure "sponsored" from outside the country is either delusional or dishonest.

 

Yes. Because you don’t like it - or you’ve at least been told not to like it - it must be a liberal operation. Those people wouldn’t be smart enough to decide to leave a drug war land on their own. 

posted by Spock

Not sure what the article said but the idea that 10,000 spotaniously started this journey is laughable.  I would bet money that big $ and foreign governments are behind this to smear Pubs.  

OR IT'S THE PUBS DOING IT SO THEY CAN SAY THE LIBS DID IT TO MAKE THEM LOOK BAD!!!!!!

Counter-conspiracy theory accomplished!

posted by Heretic

OR IT'S THE PUBS DOING IT SO THEY CAN SAY THE LIBS DID IT TO MAKE THEM LOOK BAD!!!!!!

Counter-conspiracy theory accomplished!

This conspiracy theory would make more sense lol.  Not sure why the dems would want this right before the election, because it does not help them. 

posted by like_that

This conspiracy theory would make more sense lol.  Not sure why the dems would want this right before the election, because it does not help them. 

If Trump sends the military down to the border, that doesn't help Dems?  I honestly don't know.

I'm also not sure what the military would actually do, since if the caravan gets to the border it's too late.  Maybe Trump thinks he can send the military into Mexico to stop the caravan before that?!?  lol

Ya'll are forgetting that there are women and children, including babies, in this caravan. They've already accused Trump of caging them like animals and being heartless. They will just amp up those claims and use them again. This, in their minds, works in their favor.

posted by gut

If Trump sends the military down to the border, that doesn't help Dems?  I honestly don't know.

I'm also not sure what the military would actually do, since if the caravan gets to the border it's too late.  Maybe Trump thinks he can send the military into Mexico to stop the caravan before that?!?  lol

Do you think it would look better to just allow 10,000 illegal immigrants invade the country? 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Yes. Because you don’t like it - or you’ve at least been told not to like it - it must be a liberal operation. Those people wouldn’t be smart enough to decide to leave a drug war land on their own. 

It's been what it's been there for quite some time. I'm supposed to believe that thousands just randomly said "enough is enough" and started walking? BTW, I'm not the one that put forth wild conspiracies, I merely said there's no way it can possibly be organic.

In terms of believing what I'm told to like or dislike, my thoughts and words are my own. You on the other hand are the living definition of NPC. You're the lefty version of QQ.

Shots fired!

Fleeing violence, asking for asylum at border.

That's still legal, right? 

You have to stop this before they get to the border. I don't care if it takes some Clear and Present Danger type of shit, you cannot have this many people wandering into the Chihuahuan Desert

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

So any theories on how Hillary, Obama, Soros & Co. pulled this together?

Ever hear of Pueblo Sin Fronteras?  Irineo Mujica?  He was arrested by Mexican authorities at the Guatemala-Mexican border around the time this "caravan" was attempting to cross the border.  He is an activist with Pueblo Sin Fronteras who is known to have led the "caravan" last spring.

These types of groups receive funds from a variety of sources ,the vast majority not from Guatemala/Honduras, but from foreign sources like left leaning grant generating foundations.

None of the people you mentioned above need be at all directly involved.  There are wealthy people who donate their money to like minded organizations with the desire it is likely to be used in their interest at some point.

In order to get a true organic mass migration of people you have to have some sort of sudden catastrophic event.  Like war or natural disaster.

posted by cbus4life

Fleeing violence, asking for asylum at border.

That's still legal, right? 

No.

To legally seek asylum you have to stop at the first border you cross and ask for it.  

posted by cbus4life

Fleeing violence, asking for asylum at border.

That's still legal, right? 

no.  The asylum cant be granted due to the fact that the international treaties on borders contain wording that they must seek asylum on the southern mexico border before reaching another border.  Mexico is not following international law.  Hence we dont have to grant anything or even hear them out.

Mexico offered them asylum.  They turned it down.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/migrant-caravan-members-reject-offer-stay-mexico-n925171