posted by QuakerOats
Hard to imagine there is any greater evil. The governor (and other fucked up liberals) advocating for first degree murder. Lock the son of a bitch up today.
Call me "creepy" I guess, but this is absolutely despicable.
"No woman seeks a third trimester abortion except in the case of tragic or difficult circumstances, such as a nonviable pregnancy or in the event of severe fetal abnormalities, and the governor’s comments were limited to the actions physicians would take in the event that a woman in those circumstances went into labor," Ofirah Yheskel, a spokeswoman for Northam, said. "Attempts to extrapolate these comments otherwise is in bad faith and underscores exactly why the governor believes physicians and women, not legislators, should make these difficult and deeply personal medical decisions,"
Just to add the edit from that article..
posted by SportsAndLady
Just to add the edit from that article..
This is their spin? I don't buy that bullshit. His comments were in reference/support of a VA state delegate proposing a bill as well as confirming that the bill allows an abortion up to minutes before birth. That bill itself is despicable. Especially considering most doctors agree it is safer for the women to deliver the child than abort it. You have to deliver the child regardless, so killing it really doesn't make much medical sense.
posted by like_thatThis is their spin? I don't buy that bullshit. His comments were in reference/support of a VA state delegate proposing a bill as well as confirming that the bill allows an abortion up to minutes before birth. That bill itself is despicable. Especially considering most doctors agree it is safer for the women to deliver the child than abort it. You have to deliver the child regardless, so killing it really doesn't make much medical sense.
Seems pretty obvious to me that they do not want perfectly healthy babies being born and then killed. But what do I know
posted by SportsAndLadySeems pretty obvious to me that they do not want perfectly healthy babies being born and then killed. But what do I know
Might as well kill off RBG with this logic.
posted by like_thatMight as well kill off RBG with this logic.
Are we sure she’s actually still alive (j/k CC).
The bill mentioned from Virginia which failed already, also didn’t care about the health of the baby and would have allowed it based on the mothers possible “mental health”.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/virginia-abortion-bill-barbaric/
I have a suspicion that the underlying agenda here is to provoke outrage from Conservatives....for the purpose of campaigning that, if you re-elect Trump, abortion is going to become illegal.
Multiple states don't just one day wake-up and all start moving similar legislation through.
posted by gutI have a suspicion that the underlying agenda here is to provoke outrage from Conservatives....for the purpose of campaigning that, if you re-elect Trump, abortion is going to become illegal.
Multiple states don't just one day wake-up and all start moving similar legislation through.
I agree. This smells political. And QO and others are falling right into it.
I would hope the people voting for these loons are having buyers remorse
posted by gutI have a suspicion that the underlying agenda here is to provoke outrage from Conservatives....for the purpose of campaigning that, if you re-elect Trump, abortion is going to become illegal.
Multiple states don't just one day wake-up and all start moving similar legislation through.
ALEC says hello
posted by gutI have a suspicion that the underlying agenda here is to provoke outrage from Conservatives....for the purpose of campaigning that, if you re-elect Trump, abortion is going to become illegal.
Multiple states don't just one day wake-up and all start moving similar legislation through.
That's modern day politics. Everything that is done has an underlying agenda to rile up the other side. I think the left is biting off more than they can chew with this one though. This isn't a grey area "a fetus isn't a human!" debate. Even most normal pro choice people aren't bullish on late term abortions.
posted by SportsAndLadyI agree. This smells political. And QO and others are falling right into it.
It could be, but a late term abortion bill did pass in NY, so it's a little more than just political when a law is officially in place.
posted by gutI have a suspicion that the underlying agenda here is to provoke outrage from Conservatives....for the purpose of campaigning that, if you re-elect Trump, abortion is going to become illegal.
Multiple states don't just one day wake-up and all start moving similar legislation through.
Not sure if they are smart enough to have an agenda. THe shit they are saying and doing is so far left. If that is their political play it sucks. There is no where for them to go. You cant get any more radical then killing babies
posted by SportsAndLadyI agree. This smells political. And QO and others are falling right into it.
It could be, but a late term abortion bill did pass in NY, so it's a little more than just political when a law is officially in place.
The link I posted earlier showed a May 2018 Gallup poll where only 18% of democrats thought 3rd trimester abortions should be legal. So it doesn't seem smart to turn off some of the last remaining moderates.
Essentially, the democrats just have to not be fucking crazy and Trump loses in 2020. But already starting in on banishing private insurance, up-to-birth abortions, and hating successful people doesn't seem like a great way to do it.
posted by iclfan2Essentially, the democrats just have to not be fucking crazy and Trump loses in 2020.
This.
The question is if they are able to pull themselves together enough to do it. From the looks of things, no. The answer is no.
posted by SportsAndLadyI agree. This smells political. And QO and others are falling right into it.
There will never be hesitation in standing for life and defending the innocent unborn (and now born).
posted by like_thatThis is their spin? I don't buy that bullshit. His comments were in reference/support of a VA state delegate proposing a bill as well as confirming that the bill allows an abortion up to minutes before birth. That bill itself is despicable. Especially considering most doctors agree it is safer for the women to deliver the child than abort it. You have to deliver the child regardless, so killing it really doesn't make much medical sense.
For the love of God there are tens of thousands of wonderful adults who wish to be parents that would love to adopt a newborn. How could anyone take the life of a baby knowing there are so many ready to adopt that child? Where the hell is the humanity?
posted by QuakerOats
For the love of God there are tens of thousands of wonderful adults who wish to be parents that would love to adopt a newborn. How could anyone take the life of a baby knowing there are so many ready to adopt that child? Where the hell is the humanity?
Here's one where I agree with you entirely. I can't understand a human being even talking about how this "procedure" works without feeling sick to their stomach. If a woman is into here third trimester and doesn't wan the baby, the most loving thing she can do is provide it to willing parents. Even if the baby has some sort of developmental disability, there are tens of thousands of couples who would happily adopt him/her. I have no comprehension as to how anyone can support this, let alone cheer about it.
If someone who agrees with aborting a viable baby can please explain to me what is the difference between that and, for example, euthanizing a severely retarded teenager because the child is causing mental health issues on the mother? What's the difference?
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieHere's one where I agree with you entirely. I can't understand a human being even talking about how this "procedure" works without feeling sick to their stomach. If a woman is into here third trimester and doesn't wan the baby, the most loving thing she can do is provide it to willing parents. Even if the baby has some sort of developmental disability, there are tens of thousands of couples who would happily adopt him/her. I have no comprehension as to how anyone can support this, let alone cheer about it.
If someone who agrees with aborting a viable baby can please explain to me what is the difference between that and, for example, euthanizing a severely retarded teenager because the child is causing mental health issues on the mother? What's the difference?
Or an elder adult that obviously isn't in good health. This is why I facetiously said we might as well kill off RBG. I don't understand the logic and why it's celebrated.
THese progressives are a joke. Jesus they have all the talking heads on the news and politicians on there and have yet to create a viral soundbite because people arent asking the right questions.
Ask these wackos about the baby.....not about the policy. Any answer about a baby would be a coffin nail on these types of legislation.
posted by SpockTHese progressives are a joke. Jesus they have all the talking heads on the news and politicians on there and have yet to create a viral soundbite because people arent asking the right questions.
Ask these wackos about the baby.....not about the policy. Any answer about a baby would be a coffin nail on these types of legislation.
Last summer having a baby separated from its mother was a heinous crime and national crisis. Today, well, just murder the kid.
posted by QuakerOatsSan Fran restaurant bans MAGA hats...
Fun times
This reminds me of the baker in Colorado who refused to sell the gay couple a cake.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieThis reminds me of the baker in Colorado who refused to sell the gay couple a cake.
Except that they could have bought anything from the bakery. They couldn't get a CUSTOM cake. So no, not really the same thing. I'm cool with a company refusing to serve someone for any reason though, so I'm fine with the MAGA hat ban. The market will decide if he stays in business or not.
posted by iclfan2Except that they could have bought anything from the bakery. They couldn't get a CUSTOM cake. So no, not really the same thing. I'm cool with a company refusing to serve someone for any reason though, so I'm fine with the MAGA hat ban. The market will decide if he stays in business or not.
Me too.
posted by QuakerOatsSan Fran restaurant bans MAGA hats...
Fun times
1. It's the free market at work. If it hurts their business, it's on them.
2. It's San Francisco. I'd just assumed MAGA hats were pretty taboo around town already.
posted by iclfan2Except that they could have bought anything from the bakery. They couldn't get a CUSTOM cake. So no, not really the same thing. I'm cool with a company refusing to serve someone for any reason though, so I'm fine with the MAGA hat ban. The market will decide if he stays in business or not.
posted by like_thatMe too.
Same, obviously.