When will we know who won?

if Biden is winning the media will be trying to call it that day

If Trump is winning they wont call it for a week

When will we know? Likely the next day.

When will they call it? Likely 7-10 days after.

I'm going to say more than a week. If there are lawsuits it will likely take months.

posted by Spock

If Trump is winning they wont call it for a week

Should be over by midnight tomorrow night.  The socialists' only hope will be a close race in PA in which case they can manufacture biden votes for several days to try to pull it out. 

posted by QuakerOats

Should be over by midnight tomorrow night.  The socialists' only hope will be a close race in PA in which case they can manufacture biden votes for several days to try to pull it out. 

Counting ballots =/= manufacturing votes. But keep on doing you.

Gotta know how many are needed first.  Not uncommon for Philadelphia county and Miami-Dade and similar urban counties to be last to report.

posted by Laley23

Counting ballots =/= manufacturing votes. But keep on doing you.

I don't remember which states, but a few are prevented, by law, from even starting to count mail-in ballots before election day.

Trump won MI, WI and PA in 2016 by a combined total of 200k votes.  And lost MN by like 40k.  Add FL to the mix and I think all of those states will have uncounted mail-in ballots well in excess of the margin on election night.

So I agree 7-10 days is probably a pretty good bet on a call.  And then the lawsuits will start.

I think Trump is going to narrowly lose.  He's closed the gap in the last two weeks, but the problem is half the people had already voted.  Closing the gap with people who already voted for Biden is useless.

posted by gut

I think Trump is going to narrowly lose.  He's closed the gap in the last two weeks, but the problem is half the people had already voted.  Closing the gap with people who already voted for Biden is useless.

As soon as Biden votes exceed Trump votes in the last-to-report states.

posted by QuakerOats

Should be over by midnight tomorrow night.  The socialists' only hope will be a close race in PA in which case they can manufacture biden votes for several days to try to pull it out. 

I wish your daddy would have pulled it out.

posted by QuakerOats

As soon as Biden votes exceed Trump votes in the last-to-report states.

Damn you're smart. You figured out the Dems are cheating to get Biden elected, but they let the Republicans keep the Senate and gain seats in the House to throw people off the track. Can't fool you.

Idiot.

Whenever Nevada gives their latest totals, it’s over.