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gut

Senior Member

Fri, Sep 24, 2021 1:32 PM
posted by Heretic

... bleeting "fake news" every time one of those reports came out, but during Trump's tenure, how many stories were made out of leaks saying that when it came to briefings, meetings and the like, he had the attention span of a small child and regularly needed basic things explained to him?

I'd would guess most, if not all, those stories WERE "fake news".

There are other examples of named sources disputing those claims on record.  But the most glaring was James Comey, under oath, describing Trump as "above average intelligence".  That just doesn't square with all the unverifiable, unnamed sources of the reports you describe.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Sep 25, 2021 7:31 AM
posted by gut

I'll just say it again, all the POTUS does is give speeches and rubber stamp stuff.  Nothing about what Biden is doing and how he's doing it is different from his predecessors.  Biden just isn't maintaining the fascade, and so everyone is finally seeing behind the curtain.

Because he should be in a home. He barely speaks and doesn’t answer questions when he does. If Trump was President he’d be getting murdered over drone strikes and the border, but instead we get the made up “mean men on horsies” (proven to be fake). Besides the ultra progressives, does anyone who voted for him actually think he’s doing even a mediocre job?


iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 11:09 AM

Oh

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 1:27 PM

This administration thinks it's unfair and absurd to suggest that companies will raise prices to offset tax increases.

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 2:33 PM

There are literally hundreds of years of concrete evidence that disprove her claim.  The consumer ALWAYS pays.  Always.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 2:34 PM

I don't think it is economic illiteracy; it is just plain lying. 

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 3:03 PM
posted by ernest_t_bass

There are literally hundreds of years of concrete evidence that disprove her claim.  The consumer ALWAYS pays.  Always.

I always say tax cuts may not trickle down, but tax increases definitely do.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 3:05 PM
posted by ernest_t_bass

There are literally hundreds of years of concrete evidence that disprove her claim.  The consumer ALWAYS pays.  Always.

This is unfair and absurd.

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 4:32 PM

If a $100 million/yr revenue company typically makes 15% profit (typical) thats $15 million/yr profit.


If they currently take 20% taxes on that profit thats $3 million which is already part of the $85 million in costs the company bean counters figures into their "costs".


If the taxes go to say 40% and therefore $6 million, that extra $3 million will directly go to their "costs" and therefore they will still make $15 million per year and the customer's pricing just went up by at least 3% to cover the $3 million in extra taxes.


On top of that, the company is then only making 14.5% profit and the board will want it to be back at 15% so they will jack the price up antoher 1/2% just for pure profit margin to get back to 15% profit that they have to get to their stockholders/board.


So the consumer is getting a price increase of 3.5% (roughly) on everything they buy to get the government an extra 10-20% from an average company. 


That means everything you spend $$ on is going up by that much immediately, as if inflation hasn't been bad enough this year already.

sportchampps

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 5:58 PM

Not to mention lost sales to companies outside the US they will need to make up for. Which lost sales = the need for less employees. 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 6:18 PM
posted by justincredible

This is unfair and absurd.

Simple rule of thumb:

a. If tax laws benefit the corporations under the premise of "trickle-down" economics, it will benefit the corporations, but with little to no trickling down.

b. If tax laws go after the corporations because of (a) under the premise of "paying fair share", those losses due to additional taxes will definitely be trickling down to anyone and everyone using whatever service that corporation provides.

Meanwhile all of us who aren't, say, corporate execs or major shareholders are just sitting here wondering if there is any actual scenario where we might actually kinda sorta benefit from anything anyone does, or if every single action actually does lead to a reaction that inevitably fucks us over a bit more than we were previously.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 8:00 PM
posted by Heretic

Simple rule of thumb:

a. If tax laws benefit the corporations under the premise of "trickle-down" economics, it will benefit the corporations, but with little to no trickling down.

b. If tax laws go after the corporations because of (a) under the premise of "paying fair share", those losses due to additional taxes will definitely be trickling down to anyone and everyone using whatever service that corporation provides.

Meanwhile all of us who aren't, say, corporate execs or major shareholders are just sitting here wondering if there is any actual scenario where we might actually kinda sorta benefit from anything anyone does, or if every single action actually does lead to a reaction that inevitably fucks us over a bit more than we were previously.

Government taxing is not the way to benefit our society.  Just the same, entrusting our future to corporate executives who “just want to be left alone to make things” like some sort of benevolent force is ignorance.  The swamp in the boardroom can be as bad as that in the government buildings.  

I’m pretty sure that a great many in top government roles and a great many executives of large corporations fit the profile of psychopath.  I believe the psychopathic personality is in large part what runs our world.  


sportchampps

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 28, 2021 10:05 PM
posted by Heretic

Simple rule of thumb:

a. If tax laws benefit the corporations under the premise of "trickle-down" economics, it will benefit the corporations, but with little to no trickling down.

b. If tax laws go after the corporations because of (a) under the premise of "paying fair share", those losses due to additional taxes will definitely be trickling down to anyone and everyone using whatever service that corporation provides.

Meanwhile all of us who aren't, say, corporate execs or major shareholders are just sitting here wondering if there is any actual scenario where we might actually kinda sorta benefit from anything anyone does, or if every single action actually does lead to a reaction that inevitably fucks us over a bit more than we were previously.

It’s all about what fucks is the least lol


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 10:22 AM
posted by Heretic

Simple rule of thumb:

a. If tax laws benefit the corporations under the premise of "trickle-down" economics, it will benefit the corporations, but with little to no trickling down.

b. If tax laws go after the corporations because of (a) under the premise of "paying fair share", those losses due to additional taxes will definitely be trickling down to anyone and everyone using whatever service that corporation provides.

Meanwhile all of us who aren't, say, corporate execs or major shareholders are just sitting here wondering if there is any actual scenario where we might actually kinda sorta benefit from anything anyone does, or if every single action actually does lead to a reaction that inevitably fucks us over a bit more than we were previously.


Not actually accurate.  The Trump tax cuts caused thousands of companies to grant significant bonuses to all employees, as well as enabled them to pay retention bonuses during the pandemic.   Additionally, everyone who pays income taxes, paid less income taxes. 


How soon we forget. 

geeblock

Member

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 10:26 AM
posted by QuakerOats


Not actually accurate.  The Trump tax cuts caused thousands of companies to grant significant bonuses to all employees, as well as enabled them to pay retention bonuses during the pandemic.   Additionally, everyone who pays income taxes, paid less income taxes. 


How soon we forget. 

"thousands"   "significant"   Link?

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 4:39 PM
posted by geeblock

"thousands"   "significant"   Link?


It was a daily occurrence for months ...........in addition to major investments for continued growth.  Sorry you missed it. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 5:46 PM
posted by QuakerOats


It was a daily occurrence for months ...........in addition to major investments for continued growth.  Sorry you missed it. 

Major investments went on before and after Trump.  

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 5:57 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Major investments went on before and after Trump.  


Business confidence soared under Trump; almost all employees got substantial raises and bonuses; investments were massive.  



Take care. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 7:51 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Government taxing is not the way to benefit our society.  Just the same, entrusting our future to corporate executives who “just want to be left alone to make things” like some sort of benevolent force is ignorance.  The swamp in the boardroom can be as bad as that in the government buildings.  

I’m pretty sure that a great many in top government roles and a great many executives of large corporations fit the profile of psychopath.  I believe the psychopathic personality is in large part what runs our world.  


Just saw this tweet and thought it was relevant to your post.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 8:46 PM

Ummm…

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 9:02 PM
posted by justincredible

Just saw this tweet and thought it was relevant to your post.

I think he’s right  


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Sep 29, 2021 9:15 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I think he’s right  


100%


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Sep 30, 2021 9:32 AM
posted by iclfan2

Ummm…



Which is why the administrative state is more dangerous than the legislative branch. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Mon, Oct 4, 2021 11:40 AM

Let's go, Brandon!

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Tue, Oct 5, 2021 9:56 AM

Using federal law enforcement to go after parents that disagree with your political party. Seems awfully authoritarian… Same FBI that admitted they don’t track leftist (Antifa and BLM) violence.