posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieThat’s all that matters.
Whats funny is that I am more often than not
posted by QuakerOats
Intel was happening. They called Governor DeWine on Christmas morning, 2021, and told him so. The Ohio team did a wonderful job in securing the investment. There are also over 70 other major firms relocating their headquarters to Ohio from other states.
Apparently you don't listen to Intels CEO who has said the whole deal was contingent on passage of the CHIPs act to offset the cost of reshoring.
Dewine and One Columbus did a great job of Intel picking Columbus over say North Carolina or Wisconsin. But, it was all dependent on CHIPs act.
Jobs Ohio and One Columbus are doing a great job. Getting Google and Facebook here a few years was a big first step.
posted by Ironman92I don’t really mean addicts….they need extra help and are too far gone at the moment to work. But the traffic of able people that are either definitely on drugs but also full capable of many many jobs.
I see the holier than thou on FB saying there are simply too many jobs and not enough people….that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I know southern Ohio is worse but if they say it’s 10% I’m still saying no freaking way. Every other restaurant in town has to shut down a day or close early due to no employees. Most everything in town seems to be struggling for employees.
Not enough nurses, not enough teachers, not enough counselors, bus drivers, aides, cooking staff, waitresses, grocery workers.
My mom is 64 years old and a bit nervous about her having enough to live on so she went last week to 6 different places for possible employment in what she was interested in…..5 of them had a job ready for her.
It seems like 1/2 of town is living in duplexes for $650 a month and it’s being paid for somehow and none of them work…none and the owner even mows the damn grass for them all. 2 large areas of town with subdivisions of such…..and they aren’t big time druggies or they couldn’t get the houses to rent.
I think disability is a crutch for a lot of people in the area. I largely agree with your observations about SE Ohio too.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieYou gave Trump credit for the Cleveland-Cliffs DRI plant in Toledo even though the deal for that came about in 2014-15, so why shouldn’t someone else apply the same logic here?
Ok; then Trump gets the credit for Intel since re-shoring started under him.
Thx
posted by ptown_trojans_1I think disability is a crutch for a lot of people in the area. I largely agree with your observations about SE Ohio too.
Disability is inflated here for sure…a damn big number of people spend so much of their energy and intelligence to get out of working.
posted by QuakerOats
Ok; then Trump gets the credit for Intel since re-shoring started under him.
Thx
Neither of them deserves credit for any of it is the more accurate conclusion.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieNeither of them deserves credit for any of it is the more accurate conclusion.
Look, the only real point to take is that QO deserves a certain degree of admiration for being so willing to never give up his act that he can decide whether anything must be directly laid at the feet of the current president or the former guy based solely on whether it is good or bad AND what party either of those presidents happens to be. So, now, if it's good, it was Trump and if it's bad, it is Biden. While a couple years ago, if it was good, it was Trump and if it was bad, it was Obama.
And regardless of how utterly self-contradictory those claims wind up becoming over the course of over a decade of making them on this site, he sticks to those guns!
posted by gutPtown: "Trump is slippery because he hates leaving a paper trail. Doesn't like putting things in writing or email. Shreds and flushes papers down the toilet"
Also Ptown: "Let's wait and see what incriminating evidence they find in those papers 18 months after Trump left the WH"
Ptown will come in here trying to look like the level headed poster by telling us to wait to see the outcome of the raid/investigation, meanwhile there is no doubt ptown will post about any leaked story regarding this investigation. Book it, he’s done it in the past.
Speaking of which, you have to love Garland speaking to the FBI’s professionalism and then the “searching for nuclear documents “ leak happens immediately after his press conference.
posted by like_thatSpeaking of which, you have to love Garland speaking to the FBI’s professionalism and then the “searching for nuclear documents “ leak happens immediately after his press conference.
Well, you know, Melania was going to courier nuclear secrets in the hemline of her dress. So it's a good thing they searched her closet.
And I've said this before - it would be rather typical Trump to have an insider leak fake and damaging intel for the purpose of provoking a reaction so Trump can then play the victim.
posted by gutWell, you know, Melania was going to courier nuclear secrets in the hemline of her dress. So it's a good thing they searched her closet.
And I've said this before - it would be rather typical Trump to have an insider leak fake and damaging intel for the purpose of provoking a reaction so Trump can then play the victim.
I saw a Trump supporter being interviewed outside the Maralago gate, weeping and saying "look what they're doing to his family". The exact moment he was doing that, there was a reasonable chance Trump was playing golf at his NJ course prior to dining in the grille room with his pals. Only in America.
Well I guess another MAGA guy attacked the FBI building in Cincy, so the wackos are coming out. Marjorie Greene et al need fighters on the streets I guess.
But amazingly, the streets in every city are not burning, there has been no looting, federal buildings are not under siege, republican congressional leaders are not demanding no bail, billions in damage has not occurred, and statues have not been torn down. Imagine that.
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posted by like_thatPtown will come in here trying to look like the level headed poster by telling us to wait to see the outcome of the raid/investigation, meanwhile there is no doubt ptown will post about any leaked story regarding this investigation. Book it, he’s done it in the past.
Speaking of which, you have to love Garland speaking to the FBI’s professionalism and then the “searching for nuclear documents “ leak happens immediately after his press conference.
I don't think you understand the difference between background and a leak. But, whatever.
The Post story is vague and nuclear is a headliner, but could mean a whole host of things, so still waiting.
The documents posted today are interesting. We do know what they are investigating now.
posted by QuakerOatsBut amazingly, the streets in every city are not burning, there has been no looting, federal buildings are not under siege, republican congressional leaders are not demanding no bail, billions in damage has not occurred, and statues have not been torn down. Imagine that.
That's some good mental reasoning
posted by gutWell, you know, Melania was going to courier nuclear secrets in the hemline of her dress. So it's a good thing they searched her closet.
And I've said this before - it would be rather typical Trump to have an insider leak fake and damaging intel for the purpose of provoking a reaction so Trump can then play the victim.
You are giving Trump way too much credit there.
posted by ptown_trojans_1I don't think you understand the difference between background and a leak. But, whatever.
The Post story is vague and nuclear is a headliner, but could mean a whole host of things, so still waiting.
The documents posted today are interesting. We do know what they are investigating now.
And what are they investigating? That they waited 18 months for and already talked to him about?
posted by iclfan2And what are they investigating? That they waited 18 months for and already talked to him about?
The three federal code violations mentioned. You can look it up
posted by ptown_trojans_1The three federal code violations mentioned. You can look it up
And I stand my initial take. Nothing I've heard so far makes me think I was wrong. There's a whole bunch of issues raised that sounds fishy (pun intended).
Unless Trump was actually trying to traffic these records that were locked in a storage room (yes, the usual TDS loons are claiming he was trying to sell it), nothing will come of any of those charges. For starters, you have to show criminal intent. Good luck with that (why Hillary wasn't charged).
My guess is they had to list serious charges to get the judge to sign off on it. I doubt he'll ever be charged. But it wouldn't be the first time they've used obscure or ignored statutes to try to get Trump. They're kitchen-sink at this point trying to disqualify him from 2024.
posted by iclfan2And what are they investigating? That they waited 18 months for and already talked to him about?
There's dozens of questions surrounding the timing and actions they took, which mostly only point to one conclusion: January 6 fishing expedition. Or maybe Russia Collusion Part Deaux.
posted by gutAnd I stand my initial take. Nothing I've heard so far makes me think I was wrong. There's a whole bunch of issues raised that sounds fishy (pun intended).
Unless Trump was actually trying to traffic these records that were locked in a storage room (yes, the usual TDS loons are claiming he was trying to sell it), nothing will come of any of those charges. For starters, you have to show criminal intent. Good luck with that (why Hillary wasn't charged).
My guess is they had to list serious charges to get the judge to sign off on it. I doubt he'll ever be charged. But it wouldn't be the first time they've used obscure or ignored statutes to try to get Trump. They're kitchen-sink at this point trying to disqualify him from 2024.
Maybe. Maybe not. You could be right. I tend to agree that it is most likely not going to turn into anything if I had to guess.
I'm not one to leap to any conclusions on motive here by the DOJ either as I do want to wait.
posted by gutThere's dozens of questions surrounding the timing and actions they took, which mostly only point to one conclusion: January 6 fishing expedition. Or maybe Russia Collusion Part Deaux.
One of many questions: Why didn't they only remove the classified records? I wonder what Christopher Steele has been up to...
I doubt it as it looks like this started well before 1/6 commission stuff. But, hey, whatever makes you think this is all political.
I guess I am in the minority here in thinking the DOJ can actually do things by the book without influence of politics.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Well yea, that’s an awful belief.I guess I am in the minority here in thinking the DOJ can actually do things by the book without influence of politics.
posted by ptown_trojans_1I doubt it as it looks like this started well before 1/6 commission stuff. But, hey, whatever makes you think this is all political.
I guess I am in the minority here in thinking the DOJ can actually do things by the book without influence of politics.
Hillary could have been charged with all 3 of those statutes. I remember Comey specifically citing an inability to prove intent.
You maybe haven't followed that closely, but here's the stuff that points to something well beyond having classified records:
- The GSA boxed up the records at the WH. My guess is Trump has never touched them since leaving.
- The GSA was out in June to inventory the records. Told Trump to put a lock on the storage closet.
- An insider allegedly told the DOJ about classified records, which prompted the warrant.
- I haven't seen it confirmed, but there was allegedly a subpoena issued in June. Some things were supposedly turned over, and other things were being discussed.
Now the question you have to ask yourself is, if they knew what records he had [clearly they did], why did they take ALL the records? If they knew where the records were [clearly they did], why was the warrant for basically the whole property?
Read the statutes in question with the above in mind. Intent is why you get the broad warrant instead of a very specific one.
Then ask yourself this: Do you really believe Trump was attempting to sell any of this stuff? And if it's so sensitive and dangerous, then why wait days before serving the warrant?
Like I said, the only real conclusion you can take from that is seizing all the records in search of a crime. I'll chalk-up the couple of subpoenas/warrants related to Jan 6 that came out a day or two before as purely coincidental.
You can dismiss it all you want, but we've already seen multiple instances of abuse with the DOJ when it comes to Trump.
posted by iclfan2
Well yea, that’s an awful belief.
I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it, but it's pretty obvious the Dems are doing everything in their power to disqualify Trump from holding office again. You'd think they'd WANT him to run again (LOL, maybe that IS the point).
I mean, you don't show up with 30 agents for 9 hours just to recover a few boxes of classified documents.
I don't know how anyone looks at those statutes and think Trump will ever be found guilty, if he's even charged. Then the big question is WHY? Like I said, it definitely looks like the purpose was to get a broad warrant to go fishing.
posted by ptown_trojans_1I doubt it as it looks like this started well before 1/6 commission stuff. But, hey, whatever makes you think this is all political.
I guess I am in the minority here in thinking the DOJ can actually do things by the book without influence of politics.
Wait, are you still under the believe that the DOJ didn’t bring trumped up BS to the FISA court with the made up Steele dossier for political reasons years ago?