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iclfan2

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Tue, Aug 9, 2022 7:25 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Why you say that? You know a former  President cannot remove classified material as they leave. 

Hell,Republicans blasted Sandy Berger for doing the same. 

They can also declassify anything they want. And when did anyone raid Hillary’s house? Fuck the government, just don’t be a clown. I hope Trump gets tried with something, I don’t want him to run anyway. 


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 7:39 PM
posted by iclfan2

They can also declassify anything they want. And when did anyone raid Hillary’s house? Fuck the government, just don’t be a clown. I hope Trump gets tried with something, I don’t want him to run anyway. 


I don't know, but let's see exactly what they were looking for and their rational. 

If I had to guess, like most things, I don't think it is as bad as Trump supporters claim or as close to nailing Trump as liberals claim either. 


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 7:50 PM

Also, no word on thanking Biden for signing the CHIP act today? Plenty of Ohioians there today at the signing. 

Intel is not happening without it. 

Site prep has started on the facility with a ground breaking in the coming weeks. Still on target for 2025 opening. Game changer for the region and state. 

Heard today 40 additional companies that support Intel are looking at sites in Central Ohio. 

majorspark

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 7:50 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Hell,Republicans blasted Sandy Berger for doing the same. 

I don't know pretty "sloppy" stuffing classified documents down you pants. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 7:53 PM
posted by majorspark

I don't know pretty "sloppy" stuffing classified documents down you pants. 

Apparently Trump liked to flush notes, so in the same ball park.

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 8:07 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

let's the investigation play out and let's see how serious or political it is. 



The former is in question, there's very little doubt as to the latter.

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 8:30 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye
The former is in question, there's very little doubt as to the latter.

I mean, it's not like they made a big show of arresting Roger Stone or anything.

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 8:33 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Or 5, maybe let's the investigation play out and let's see how serious or political it is. 

We know nothing about why they were there, so it is all conjecture.

It's been reported by CBS, The Hill, and NYT that they were there because of the Congressional Records act.  And it's also been reported that negotiations had been ongoing to return records.

We've seen this play out, over and over, for 5+ years now.  I think we have a pretty good idea what it's all about.

I mean, how many times are you going to take the bait before you start to wise up?

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 8:37 PM
posted by gut

It's been reported by CBS, The Hill, and NYT that they were there because of the Congressional Records act.  And it's also been reported that negotiations had been ongoing to return records.

We've seen this play out, over and over, for 5+ years now.  I think we have a pretty good idea what it's all about.

I mean, how many times are you going to take the bait before you start to wise up?

Until the evidence and documents are unsealed, you don't know that or anything for sure. 


majorspark

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 9, 2022 9:39 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Apparently Trump liked to flush notes, so in the same ball park.

Don't be fooled.  There are much better ways of disposing of documents.  Trump is not flushing notes down the toilet and Sandy Berger took one for the team.

Fletch

Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 7:23 AM

Gestapo tactics here,  no fish were caught.  If so it would have been leaked already.

They are waiting for the “unnamed” source that the fake news always quotes then they plant the evidence.



Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 8:10 AM
posted by Fletch

Gestapo tactics here,  no fish were caught.  If so it would have been leaked already.

They are waiting for the “unnamed” source that the fake news always quotes then they plant the evidence.



Okay Alex Jones


Automatik

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 11:17 AM

The Fox News reaction clips from the raid have been fucking gold. Fear mongering at it’s finest. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 12:07 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Why you say that? You know a former  President cannot remove classified material as they leave. 

Hell,Republicans blasted Sandy Berger for doing the same. 


LOL ........ as if they raided Sandy Berger's house with loaded weapons for nine hours after he literally stole documents and walked out of the NA building. 



For Christ's sake, Hillary had a server full of massive amounts of REAL classified information in her home, then bleach-bit 33,000 emails that were under subpoena, on top of destroying cell phones etc.....    She walks with not even a slap on the wrist.  And let's not even start on the Bidens. 



There are two sets of justice at the federal level, and it is fully plain to see.  When you weaponize the security state against political opponents, we lose our republic. 


gut

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 1:26 PM

Ptown: "Trump is slippery because he hates leaving a paper trail.  Doesn't like putting things in writing or email.  Shreds and flushes papers down the toilet"

Also Ptown: "Let's wait and see what incriminating evidence they find in those papers 18 months after Trump left the WH"


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 1:55 PM
posted by gut

Ptown: "Trump is slippery because he hates leaving a paper trail.  Doesn't like putting things in writing or email.  Shreds and flushes papers down the toilet"

Also Ptown: "Let's wait and see what incriminating evidence they find in those papers 18 months after Trump left the WH"


Didn't say that. I said apparently, which is just conjecture or a guess from the same NYT story you saw. 

Could be something, could be nothing. I don't know. 





Ironman92

Administrator

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 3:59 PM

Unemployment rate at -3.5% or something

Feels like 30% in southern Ohio….those effers don’t have jobs.

I believe the don’t work pill heads are at least 5%….then a similar % of non hardcore druggies, then a smaller % of those that are unable to work.

I have a very difficult time believing 965 out of 1000 able and in the calculated age bracket people have jobs. It doesn’t even feel close.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 4:33 PM
posted by Ironman92

Unemployment rate at -3.5% or something

Feels like 30% in southern Ohio….those effers don’t have jobs.

I believe the don’t work pill heads are at least 5%….then a similar % of non hardcore druggies, then a smaller % of those that are unable to work.

I have a very difficult time believing 965 out of 1000 able and in the calculated age bracket people have jobs. It doesn’t even feel close.

I think the unemployment rate commonly cited attempts to account for what you cite.  3.5% of those able and willing go work.  Addicts and other mentally unfit people are outside of that estimate.  On top of that, southern Ohio probably has a higher portion of those types than lots of other places.  So I have no doubt you’re seeing way more than 3.5% of adults in that area walking around with no job.  


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 4:35 PM
posted by Ironman92

Unemployment rate at -3.5% or something

Feels like 30% in southern Ohio….those effers don’t have jobs.

I believe the don’t work pill heads are at least 5%….then a similar % of non hardcore druggies, then a smaller % of those that are unable to work.

I have a very difficult time believing 965 out of 1000 able and in the calculated age bracket people have jobs. It doesn’t even feel close.


It's not close.  


Labor participation rate remains very poor.  


Until we stop paying people not to work, we will bear the brunt of the horrible labor crisis. 




https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 4:38 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Also, no word on thanking Biden for signing the CHIP act today? Plenty of Ohioians there today at the signing. 

Intel is not happening without it. 

Site prep has started on the facility with a ground breaking in the coming weeks. Still on target for 2025 opening. Game changer for the region and state. 

Heard today 40 additional companies that support Intel are looking at sites in Central Ohio. 


Intel was happening.  They called Governor DeWine on Christmas morning, 2021, and told him so.  The Ohio team did a wonderful job in securing the investment.  There are also over 70 other major firms relocating their headquarters to Ohio from other states.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 4:41 PM
posted by QuakerOats


Intel was happening.  They called Governor DeWine on Christmas morning, 2021, and told him so.  The Ohio team did a wonderful job in securing the investment.  There are also over 70 other major firms relocating their headquarters to Ohio from other states.

You gave Trump credit for the Cleveland-Cliffs DRI plant in Toledo even though the deal for that came about in 2014-15, so why shouldn’t someone else apply the same logic here?  


Ironman92

Administrator

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 4:50 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I think the unemployment rate commonly cited attempts to account for what you cite.  3.5% of those able and willing go work.  Addicts and other mentally unfit people are outside of that estimate.  On top of that, southern Ohio probably has a higher portion of those types than lots of other places.  So I have no doubt you’re seeing way more than 3.5% of adults in that area walking around with no job.  


I don’t really mean addicts….they need extra help and are too far gone at the moment to work. But the traffic of able people that are either definitely on drugs but also full capable of many many jobs.

I see the holier than thou on FB saying there are simply too many jobs and not enough people….that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I know southern Ohio is worse but if they say it’s 10% I’m still saying no freaking way. Every other restaurant in town has to shut down a day or close early due to no employees. Most everything in town seems to be struggling for employees.

Not enough nurses, not enough teachers, not enough counselors, bus drivers, aides, cooking staff, waitresses, grocery workers.

My mom is 64 years old and a bit nervous about her having enough to live on so she went last week to 6 different places for possible employment in what she was interested in…..5 of them had a job ready for her.

It seems like 1/2 of town is living in duplexes for $650 a month and it’s being paid for somehow and none of them work…none and the owner even mows the damn grass for them all. 2 large areas of town with subdivisions of such…..and they aren’t big time druggies or they couldn’t get the houses to rent.


Fletch

Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 4:53 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Okay Alex Jones


Solid comeback.......either way I know I am right.  If they had something it would have been leaked by now.   

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 10, 2022 5:12 PM
posted by Fletch

...either way I know I am right.  

That’s all that matters.