As President, I will use military power responsibly and as a last resort. We will not go back to forever wars in the Middle East. #DemDebate
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) February 8, 2020
Let's be clear: Donald Trump does not have the authority to take us into war with Iran without Congressional approval. A president should never take this nation to war without the informed consent of the American people.
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) January 6, 2020
I don't consent.
posted by justincredibleNeocons, neolibs, moderates, whatever. They're all War Pigs. Fuck 'em all.
posted by supermanNuance guise!
The use of force is...how much responsibility does fall on Congress v. the President and his Article II powers of Commander and Chief.
I do think we need to really debate the AUMF and update it better reflect the challenges for today.
posted by ptown_trojans_1
Indeed.
posted by Heretic
Ah, yes, the program that, according to sites that don't cater to right wing nutjobs like yourself, was conceived, possibly not actually implemented and its purpose is fulfilled by ICE's Homeland Security Investigations department -- making it look more like unnecessary fat being trimmed. And, hell, from doing a couple minutes of actual research, it looks like this decision was made by ICE, without any orders or whatever coming from the current administration.
Between you and Spock's "just wait until one of them DAMN minority foreigners is living near you!!!!" weak-ass fear-mongering, the clown show is out in force today!
Yet state AG's all over the nation are asking for the reinstatement of Operation Talon. I guess they should have consulted you first so you could educate 'em up.
To think that Biden is actually making any of these decisions is funny as hell. He has no clue
posted by QuakerOats
Yet state AG's all over the nation are asking for the reinstatement of Operation Talon. I guess they should have consulted you first so you could educate 'em up.
AG Fitch urges Biden to reverse cancellation of Operation Talon
www.wjtv.com › news › state › ag-fitch-urges-biden-to...
They're politicians, so attempting to educate their stupid asses would be futile.
existence is pain pic.twitter.com/6lQ3HMh3lQ
— Ace (@Ace_Archist) February 26, 2021
posted by justincredible
existence is pain pic.twitter.com/6lQ3HMh3lQ
— Ace (@Ace_Archist) February 26, 2021
So great! We should be doing it all the time! Who else can we bomb?? I need this rush all the time.
Canada has been cruisin' for a bruisin' for a while now. It's about time to put them in their place.
posted by justincredibleCanada has been cruisin' for a bruisin' for a while now. It's about time to put them in their place.
Sure. I mean we tried and failed in the War of 1812. Time to try again.
Also, if a Canadian NHL team wins the Stanley Cup..that should be grounds for war.
Sounds like the next target will be America.
FBI SAYS ANTI-GOVERNMENT EXTREMISM HAS BECOME TOP THREAT
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) February 26, 2021
posted by justincredibleSounds like the next target will be America.
FBI SAYS ANTI-GOVERNMENT EXTREMISM HAS BECOME TOP THREAT
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) February 26, 2021
It's the 1990s all over again man.
Like when the ATF murdered a bunch of women and children and then took pictures in front of the charred bodies?
I know, I know. There is probably some nuance that I am missing there.
posted by justincredibleI know, I know. There is probably some nuance that I am missing there.
Yeah, Waco and Ruby Ridge, were bad. But, there was also Oklahoma City, and the rise of right wing terrorism. Remember all the buzz about the Turner Diaries and neo-Nazi groups?
It is like we are going back to that time.
The FBI and DHS are really referring to groups like the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, etc.
It's the "etc." that worries me. People seem to be quick to label anyone on the right, or anyone that voted for Trump as a terrorist. And given my strong anti-government stances I'm a little uncomfortable with where we're headed.
posted by justincredibleIt's the "etc." that worries me. People seem to be quick to label anyone on the right, or anyone that voted for Trump as a terrorist. And given my strong anti-government stances I'm a little uncomfortable with where we're headed.
Fair. Very fair. I know I'm a little concerned about the talk of domestic terror bill something like the Patriot act.
I don't expect anything negative to happen to me, even if the odds aren't zero they are very, very small. But man the immediate ramp up in rhetoric has been something to behold.
Got a craving for pizza that is at a place in this small town next to the swamp. Likely a bunch of Oath Keeper/Proud Boy/etc. types out there. Thought about grabbing some tonight. Their trucks are bigger than mine maybe I should just stay home.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Fair. Very fair. I know I'm a little concerned about the talk of domestic terror bill something like the Patriot act.
There are already more than enough laws on the books to handle domestic issues. No need for anymore. History teaches us that these type of knee-jerk reactions end up being used by those with maliscious intent.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Fair. Very fair. I know I'm a little concerned about the talk of domestic terror bill something like the Patriot act.
Well, for a year democrats in DC told the public to go out and get in people's faces, to chase them down, surround them and "make them uncomfortable". They said that antifa was imaginary, people were rioting for bread and that it was their 1st amendment right to express how they felt about their oppression.
In return there was billions of dollars of damage and 30+ people dead.
So when some right wing idiots took them up on it and made democrats in DC uncomfortable - they all shit their pants.
Now those same democrats in DC are calling for republicans to be doxxed, turned in, lose their jobs, calling on Apple and Google to censore them from all medias and prison time. They're making the call for republicans in general to be labeled as extremists in order to be targeted.
There is no nuance at play here. It's the very worst kind of ideological hypocrisy and it's appalling.
And you're just "a little concerned", Ptown?
posted by justincredibleSounds like the next target will be America.
FBI SAYS ANTI-GOVERNMENT EXTREMISM HAS BECOME TOP THREAT
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) February 26, 2021
FBI said Steele dossier was real