Complete Public/Private Split Coming to a Vote?

• sherm03

  

  ccrunner609;1337649 wrote:this vote will be real close.
  
  Overall, the privates just dominate other sports like volleyball, golf, tennis, CC.........this isnt just a football problem. I know that the OHSAA loses money in tournaments when privates are playing. THey sell less presale tickets, 1/2 what publics do.

  Link?
• ts1227

  

  More on it
  http://www.cleveland.com/timstake/index.ssf/2012/12/ohsaa_faces_challenges_before.html
• Delphosfan

  thavoice;1337359 wrote:I will have to ask someone from there. I know they allow open enrollment for adjacent districts only. In that area kids dont seem to use open enrollment to go and play sports much. The kids you see on the varsity rosters for a team like Marion local, Coldwter, St Henry and the likes have been there their whole lives and if ya take out the JH team photo you will see them!
  I think Coldwater had one kid on teh varsity who was open enrollment. A senior, and he had came over in 6th or 7th grade.
  
  You def dont see what ya do at the private schools where an athlete transfers from one to another in HS.

  Add DSJ to that MAC list. Although at DSJ the kids in the senior class picture are typically the same ones in the First Communion picture in 2nd grade.
• sherm03

  

  Delphosfan;1337699 wrote:Add DSJ to that MAC list. Although at DSJ the kids in the senior class picture are typically the same ones in the First Communion picture in 2nd grade.

  My buddy's wife is from Delphos. When we were up there for the wedding a few months ago, they had some street festival going on (I think it's called Canal Days?). Just about everyone I saw was wearing a Delphos St. John's hat or shirt. I think I saw three people total wearing a Jefferson shirt. It was the first place I had been where it seemed like the public school was the "outcast school" and the town rallied around the private school.
• rmolin73

  

  ccrunner609;1337649 wrote:this vote will be real close.
  
  Overall, the privates just dominate other sports like volleyball, golf, tennis, CC.........this isnt just a football problem. I know that the OHSAA loses money in tournaments when privates are playing. THey sell less presale tickets, 1/2 what publics do.

  Golf is about even. You also have to take in to consideration the number of public schools that have golf.
  
  While the private schools dominate volleyball the public schools dominate softball.
  
  In boys singles tennis in the past ten years the public schools have won more titles than the private schools. In boys doubles the public schools hold the edge as well. In both girls singles and doubles it's even.
  
  The public schools dominate boys and girls track and field as well. How many private schools have went on dominating runs like Reynoldsburgs girls and Glenvilles boys? As far as CC goes the privates aren't even close to dominating and it isn't even close. You should know that "coach".
  
  We're not even going to get on boys basketball lol. The top team in the state as well as one of the top teams in the country was a D2 public school.
• queencitybuckeye

  skank;1337573 wrote:I think in most cases it's not...."not being good enough".

  It's exactly that. What some seem to think matters that really doesn't is why.
• Bigdogg

  Delphosfan;1337699 wrote:Add DSJ to that MAC list. Although at DSJ the kids in the senior class picture are typically the same ones in the First Communion picture in 2nd grade.

  Yes they are but a lot of them tend to have addresses from a lot of surrounding school districts outside of the Jefferson public school district. Nothing wrong with this but it's quite a bit different demographics than the community schools around them who have to take everyone. I am sure the Jefferson school district would love to send you a bunch of their troubled kids so they did not have to deal with them.
• oldsmithie

  I think this will be an interesting vote. I think the vote will be more about money than anything else. I would personally hate a seperate play-off system. The only problem I have ever had is the "scholarship" money given to help off-set tuition price at a privte school. If you can not afford a private education then you remain at the public school!
• queencitybuckeye

  oldsmithie;1337952 wrote:I think this will be an interesting vote. I think the vote will be more about money than anything else. I would personally hate a seperate play-off system. The only problem I have ever had is the "scholarship" money given to help off-set tuition price at a privte school. If you can not afford a private education then you remain at the public school!

  If your position is to remain consistent, there should be no loans or grants to help pay for college. If you can't pony up, dig ditches!
• sherm03

  

  oldsmithie;1337952 wrote:I think this will be an interesting vote. I think the vote will be more about money than anything else. I would personally hate a seperate play-off system. The only problem I have ever had is the "scholarship" money given to help off-set tuition price at a privte school. If you can not afford a private education then you remain at the public school!

  Most of the "scholarships" are given by the government to give everyone a shot at a better education. My family couldn't afford it (because we had 5 kids in the private schools), so we received aide to attend the schools. And only my older brother played football.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Ohio has a voucher system.
• Delphosfan

  Bigdogg;1337938 wrote:Yes they are but a lot of them tend to have addresses from a lot of surrounding school districts outside of the Jefferson public school district. Nothing wrong with this but it's quite a bit different demographics than the community schools around them who have to take everyone. I am sure the Jefferson school district would love to send you a bunch of their troubled kids so they did not have to deal with them.

  You can live in the Delphos school district and have a Fort Jennings, Elida, Spencerville, etc... address. Delphos Jefferson gets open enrollment kids from Fort Jennings, Ottoville, Spencerville, Lima, Crestview, Van Wert, Elida, etc... There are students at Fort Jennings who have Delphos addresses. In fact, if Delphos annexed 100 yards north, some of those students would actually live in the Delphos city limits. I'd almost guarantee that every public school in Ohio has students whose address is a different town that the one their school is in. If you think every student at every public school lives in that district, you're fooling yourself.
• Con_Alma

  Delphosfan;1338037 wrote:... I'd almost guarantee that every public school in Ohio has students whose address is a different town that the one their school is in. If you think every student at every public school lives in that district, you're fooling yourself.

  Every public school in Ohio does not have a student whose address is in a different City.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Con_Alma;1338046 wrote:Every public school in Ohio does not have a student whose address is in a different City.

  Link? Example?
• Con_Alma

  Are you asking me to provide addresses of minors? I'll pass.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Con_Alma;1338050 wrote:Are you asking me to provide addresses of minors? I'll pass.

  Don't be stupid, Con. Give examples of a school district where the only residents of said school district have the mailing address of that town.
  
  Example: Put-in-Bay
• Con_Alma

  Look at the list of public schools that are not open enrollment. You'll find one there. I promise. I don't need to know I have convinced you that not "all' schools have at least one kid that lives elswhere for I know that it's just not true based on the distirct I am engaged with.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Con_Alma;1338059 wrote:Look at the list of public schools that are not open enrollment. You'll find one there. I promise. I don't need to know I have convinced you that not "all' schools have at least one kid that lives elswhere for I know that it's just not true based on the distirct I am engaged with.

  Why are you the way you are? You give an example to provide proof to your claim, that you are right. There are many NON open enroll districts that will have varying addresses because of butting postal lines.
• rrfan

  

  I hope this happens. Let the Private schools beat each other brains out....
• Con_Alma

  ernest_t_bass;1338061 wrote:Why are you the way you are? You give an example to provide proof to your claim, that you are right. There are many NON open enroll districts that will have varying addresses because of butting postal lines.

  I don't know how to answer why I am the way I am. I also don't know that why really matters on here.
  
  I choose not to give proof. It's available for all to see if they choose. It's not like I'm coveting credibility with you. I don't really think Delphosfan is interested in proving that "all" have addresses outside the district or city limits either. God Bless him if he is.
  
  I don't disagree that there are many. I am confident that it's not all.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  
• skank

  

  Grasping at straws....
• Rocket08

  skank;1337566 wrote:Why is this the argument? Why not, "what kid wants to celebrate being the private school champ"?

  Unfortunately (for you) you are not the one to ask this question
  
  When your team actually wins something on the field, this will be an area where your input is valid
  
  Until then, please remain on the outside looking in where you've be ever since the state championships were actually "earned" and not voted on in some back room
  
  0-40 years and counting:thumbdown:
• Delphosfan

  Con_Alma;1338046 wrote:Every public school in Ohio does not have a student whose address is in a different City.

  I'm not saying every school has transfers. School district boundaries do not equal city address boundaries. My aunt lives in the Delphos school district but has a Fort Jennings address. I know there are people who live in the Columbus Grove school district but have Fort Jennings addresses. It's very common.
• skank

  

  Rocket08;1338184 wrote:Unfortunately (for you) you are not the one to ask this question
  
  When your team actually wins something on the field, this will be an area where your input is valid
  
  Until then, please remain on the outside looking in where you've be ever since the state championships were actually "earned" and not voted on in some back room
  
  0-40 years and counting:thumbdown:

  
  
  That's a new way to dodge a question....Good work.