Are our kids becoming wusses? (HS Football)

• SnotBubbles

  

  http://www.examiner.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35542%3Aweekend-outlook-foul-language-gets-wapak-football-coach-in-hot-water&catid=36%3Alocal-sports&Itemid=57#.UEoTS8uyAk8.facebook
  
  Seriously?
• queencitybuckeye

  The idea that toughness and foul language have any relationship is more for the low-IQ crowd, clearly.
• SnotBubbles

  

  That's not true at all. I've had coaches that have yelled and cursed and I've had coaches that have been the complete opposite. If you think that abnormal (non cursing, bashful coaches) get just as positive results as those coaches who handle things differently, you're an idiot.
  
  How many times in your profession have you gone a week without hearing a curse word? Never...real life shows itself in high school. Low IQ or not...that is life. Cursing doesn't lower your IQ, acceptance of it doesn't either.
• thePITman

  

  There was a coach that resigned after the speech, too, in addition to the kids that quit. So it doesn't sound exclusive to the kids.
• scoreboard

  

  Maybe he was just reciting lyrics from one the kids favorite rap songs.
• Old Rider

  

  The internet and all the xbox, playstation crap keeps kids in the house and not interested in playing sports. We are the fatest and laziest country in the world...our society is going to be run by these youngsters some day...thats scary!
  
  Another thing that I have noticed with youth these days is there obvious disrespect for adults and especially adults with authority!
• GoChiefs

  

  Old Rider;1264041 wrote:The internet and all the xbox, playstation crap keeps kids in the house and not interested in playing sports. We are the fatest and laziest country in the world...our society is going to be run by these youngsters some day...thats scary!

  Wrong. It's the parents that let their kids sit inside all day long. It's not the internet, the Xbox, or the playstation. Give me a break on the "my generation is better than yours" attitude.
  

  Old Rider;1264041 wrote:Another thing that I have noticed with youth these days is there obvious disrespect for adults and especially adults with authority!

  Yes, because disrespect of authority just became an issue about 10 years ago didn't it? Dang kids.
• elitesmithie05

  Where do kids learn from?

  Old Rider;1264041 wrote:The internet and all the xbox, playstation crap keeps kids in the house and not interested in playing sports. We are the fatest and laziest country in the world...our society is going to be run by these youngsters some day...thats scary!
  
  Another thing that I have noticed with youth these days is there obvious disrespect for adults and especially adults with authority!

• queencitybuckeye

  SnotBubbles;1263774 wrote:That's not true at all. I've had coaches that have yelled and cursed and I've had coaches that have been the complete opposite. If you think that abnormal (non cursing, bashful coaches) get just as positive results as those coaches who handle things differently, you're an idiot.

  No, I just appear to have a wider range of experience. My high school coach could make a career sailor blush, while my college coach rarely if ever swore and nearly never raised his voice. Both were effective for the simple reason that they were who they were and did not conform to some stereotype of what a coach has to be.
  
  My personal experience in the business world doesn't currently have a ton of swearing. Myself, I use such language rarely and tactically. If I swear at you, you know I'm dead freaking serious and you had better get the message. If I used that language all the time, it would lose its value.
• queencitybuckeye

  thePITman;1263972 wrote:There was a coach that resigned after the speech, too, in addition to the kids that quit. So it doesn't sound exclusive to the kids.

  I'd be really surprised if the language were the only problem or the real problem here.
• j_crazy

  

  Old Rider;1264041 wrote:The internet and all the xbox, playstation crap keeps kids in the house and not interested in playing sports. We are the fatest and laziest country in the world...our society is going to be run by these youngsters some day...thats scary!
  
  Another thing that I have noticed with youth these days is there obvious disrespect for adults and especially adults with authority!

  
  Baby boomers are the cause of this country's problems. So yeah, they deserve no respect.
  
  But i get the reaction this coach got. Cussing is not for everyone so he had to know that some reaction was imminent.
• SnotBubbles

  

  This is why you don't drink in the afternoon. I caused quite a stir on Facebook with my comments. It was my last day off on vacation before I switch jobs on Monday...so I decided to celebrate.
  
  Here is what I feel. I don't condone cursing to high school aged kids, but I do not think it is punishable as long as you're not demeaning them. I do feel that our kids are "wussing" up these days and being far less respectful of authority figures and their elders, and I feel this is PART of the reason. If we got cussed at on the football field, it inspired us to do better, we didn't run to our parents or the administration to report the coach and get him in trouble, or quit the team. That's the problem, kids run the show because of our leniency on their issues. If an authority figure does something they don't like, they have more power to get the figure fired than the figure does have to defend himself.
  
  That's what under the influence SnotBubbles was trying to relay.
• isadore

  thePITman;1263972 wrote:There was a coach that resigned after the speech, too, in addition to the kids that quit. So it doesn't sound exclusive to the kids.

  the offensive co-ordinator's resignation had more to do with the head coach taking over play calling whenever they got close to the end zone.
• Old Rider

  

  GoChiefs;1264059 wrote:Wrong. It's the parents that let their kids sit inside all day long. It's not the internet, the Xbox, or the playstation. Give me a break on the "my generation is better than yours" attitude.
  
  
  
  Yes, because disrespect of authority just became an issue about 10 years ago didn't it? Dang kids.

  Your right. Dang kids. Bunch of wusses!
• Old Rider

  

  elitesmithie05;1264083 wrote:Where do kids learn from?[/QUOTE)
  
  From their wuss friends and worthless parents!

• rmolin73

  

  This past Friday Toledo Start was at Sylvania Southview. It started to lightning and down 36-6 the Start coach adamentally wanted to continue playing. After an 1 1/2 hour delay and the majority of Starts fans (one parent remained) and Southview fans (about 75) remained. Southview goes to the 15 of Start and loud as day you hear the coach from Start scream to a kid "don't you know the effin play"! Which of course gives him a personal foul. From what was stated by the guys that were doing the chains that's all he did and that was tame.
• Jmar25

  Why was a recorder in the locker room?
• said_aouita

  

  Old Rider;1264041 wrote:We are the fatest and laziest country in the world...our society is going to be run by these youngsters some day...thats scary!
  

  Hopefully this fact leads older people to take care of themselves. You can try educating or motivating the younger crowd but if they don't care about being fat and lazy, only other option is forcing them to exercise and that's "wrong" in most peoples eyes.
• O-Trap

  

  queencitybuckeye;1264101 wrote:I'd be really surprised if the language were the only problem or the real problem here.

  
  This is where I immediately went when I read the article. If a coach resigned, the problem wasn't the swearing ... or at least, it wasn't the big problem.
  
  As for the topic, kids respond differently to different coaches. Both can be successful, as such. I always responded better to a coach who yelled, got in my face, and would scream at me when I screwed up. I had such a coach, and he would frequently get so close to my face when he'd scream that spittle and flecks of sunflower seed shell would be on my face.
  
  But it somehow pushed me in a way I couldn't figure out how to duplicate without it.
  
  Other players would shut down if they were coached that way. It doesn't work for every kid.
  

  isadore;1265398 wrote:the offensive co-ordinator's resignation had more to do with the head coach taking over play calling whenever they got close to the end zone.

  Interesting. How do you know this?
• 1_beast

  

  Jmar25;1267669 wrote:Why was a recorder in the locker room?

  good question. The coach may be getting "Schrock'd"
• O-Trap

  

  1_beast;1272844 wrote:good question. The coach may be getting "Schrock'd"

  Nah, with Schrock, the Superintendent was hiding in the locker room in person.
• isadore

  i was told the tape was made by the team doctor.
  that the quits were 1 starter and 6 jvs
  the offensive co ordinator quit over criticism from players of his role with the team.
• Jmar25

  isadore;1273770 wrote:i was told the tape was made by the team doctor.
  that the quits were 1 starter and 6 jvs
  the offensive co ordinator quit over criticism from players of his role with the team.

  LOL! O NO! WE CAN'T TRUST THE TEAM DOCTORS ANYMORE!!! WHO WILL PUT IN OUR STITCHES LATE AT NIGHT???? (That's for you Doc Eich...)