Week 4: Wooster Generals (2-1) at Ashland Arrows (0-3)

• CCRolly

  

  I'm expecting you can throw the records out, and that this WILL be a highly competitive game, and could be very high scoring. Here's hoping the Wooster defensive coaches don't come out with the same man-to-man defense with 1 safety (if we're lucky) that they've been running for the past 10 years.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  General's have to play Cover 2, with help over the top. The new QB at Ashland is pretty darned good. A good litmus test for the General's.
  
  Go Woo!!!!
• CCRolly

  

  Wooster better keep their eyes on Jones or it'll be a long night. I like the Cover 2 idea, but the McCrearies never did that against Hiller or Fuller. Looking forward to seeing the Generals speed on the turf.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  The cover 2 would help out tremendously in eliminating the deep ball but the coach's arrogance will keep it out of the playbook.
  
  The turf could really benefit Wooster.
• you think you know

  

  Arrows defense is small slow and weak and their offense is inconsistent and nonathletic,
  I don’t think the Generals will have any problems handling the small, slow, nonathletic boys from Ashland.
• riders1

  

  you think you know;897632 wrote:Arrows defense is small slow and weak and their offense is inconsistent and nonathletic,
  I don’t think the Generals will have any problems handling the small, slow, nonathletic boys from Ashland.

  I can see a very interesting game coming up here as a 1 point loss at Dover would indicate this is not a bad 0-3 team.
  Ringz and CC, I see a little low key approach from your Arrow buddy to get you over confident
• CCRolly

  

  That's exactly what I expected from him as well! I'm just hoping that McCreary isn't sitting at home tonight thinking this one is already in the bag.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  riders1;897639 wrote:I can see a very interesting game coming up here as a 1 point loss at Dover would indicate this is not a bad 0-3 team.
  Ringz and CC, I see a little low key approach from your Arrow buddy to get you over confident

  I don't fall for such sandbagging, I have been around beast for years.
• you think you know

  

  We are small this year!!!
  
  
• riders1

  

  LOL !!!
• wallyk

  you think you know;897632 wrote:Arrows defense is small slow and weak and their offense is inconsistent and nonathletic,
  I don’t think the Generals will have any problems handling the small, slow, nonathletic boys from Ashland.

  That's right!
• OQB

  

  you think you know;897997 wrote:We are small this year!!!
  
  

  haha, I lol'd on that one...nice work!
  
  good luck to both teams, this should be a really good game.
• you think you know

  

  you think you know;897997 wrote:We are small this year!!!
  
  

  AND THAT'S OUR QB/PUNTER/LB
• wallyk

  Great game ARROWS! It ain't over til it's over. Beating the Garfields and Ellets do not prepare you for the OCC.
• Riderwannabe

  agree,tell coach mccreay to say geez lo weeze in the paper as a quote tomorrow.
• OQB

  

  I can't wait for the petition to start AGAIN this year.........It's the same old story every year with him. They just don't seem to care.
• Riderwannabe

  he stinks, to keep it nice.
• 1_beast

  

  THE4RINGZ;897871 wrote:I don't fall for such sandbagging, I have been around beast for years.

  Leave me outta this......dawg
• 1_beast

  

  I have to say...after the Ashland Dover game...I was asking myself "Self...is Ashland that good...or Dover that bad"....I still am not sure of the answer...but the Arrows put a whoopin on the Generals...its time for Mc to go!!!!!!!!!!!
• OQB

  

  How many years have we've been saying this, 6 or 7? I think he is a lifetime general.
• riders1

  

  1_beast;899272 wrote:I have to say...after the Ashland Dover game...I was asking myself "Self...is Ashland that good...or Dover that bad"....I still am not sure of the answer...but the Arrows put a whoopin on the Generals...its time for Mc to go!!!!!!!!!!!

  NO, NO, NO everyone in Orrville wants him to stay
• Mr. 300

  

  riders1;899285 wrote:NO, NO, NO everyone in Orrville wants him to stay

  As does the rest of the OCC
• you think you know

  

  Wooster 0 21 0 7 — 28
  Ashland 14 21 0 21 — 56
  
  
  First Quarter
  A — Bernhard 1 run (Gallaway kick), 8:55.
  A — Jones 16 run (Gallaway kick), 0:44.
  Second Quarter
  W — Anderson 2 run (Daugherty kick), 11:56.
  A — Krueger 34 pass from Bernhard (Gallaway kick), 11:18.
  W — Daugherty 12 run (kick failed), 8:04.
  A — Bernhard 2 run (Gallaway kick), 4:04.
  W — Daugherty 11 run (Owens pass from Daugherty), 1:52.
  A — Jones 1 run (Gallaway kick), 0:40.
  Fourth Quarter
  W — Owens 31 pass from Daugherty (Daugherty kick), 8:42.
  A — Jones 47 run (Gallaway kick), 7:55.
  A — Allton 15 run (Gallaway kick).
  ———
  First downs WHS 12 AHS 26
  Rushes-yards WHS 30-112 AHS 40-217
  Passing WHS 157 AHS 297
  Comp-Att-Int WHS 9-22-1 AHS 18-25-1
  Fumbles-Lost WHS 2-1 AHS 1-0
  Penalties-Yards WHS 9-49 AHS 4-45
  ———
  INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
  RUSHING — Wooster, Anderson 14-63.
  Ashland, Bernhard 24-111.
  PASSING — Wooster, Daugherty 9-22-1-157.
  Ashland, Bernhard 18-25-1-297.
  RECEIVING — Wooster, Owens 3-57.
  Ashland, Jones 6-111
• CCRolly

  

  Alright guys, I wouldn't allow myself to comment on this last night on here, because I knew it wouldn't be pretty. First and foremost, I want to congratulate Ashland on playing one heck of a game and really taking it to us. The following comments have nothing to do with your utter dominance of us last night. So congratulations to the Arrows and good luck the rest of the way. With that said, I really don't know if I can take watching the McCreary's run this program into the ground year-after-year, especially when the talent is there. These guys accept mediocrity and have not changed their coaching philosophies one bit over the time they've been there. I also am not aiming this at the Wooster kids....the talent is there, the work is there, they are just not put in the right position to when with this coaching staff.
  
  There were a few Ashland fans sitting around us on the Wooster side last night, and our section had a great chat with them. They were saying exactly the same thing, that we were running the same defense against us that we have for the past 6-7 years! Bill McCreary is an absolutely horrible defensive coordinator, I wouldn't let this guy coach my son's elementary flag football teams defense. The offensive playcalling is lackluster at best, hell most of us in the stands know what plays coming 90% of the time, and if we can tell you know that the opposing team's coaches sure as hell do. We run the same pass plays, to relatively the same kid 90% of the time. It's either a streak, an out, or very rarely a slant. Problem is, you throw to the same kid all game! The fake onside kick before every kickoff is about as retarded as you get, I watched in absolute amazement in Wadsworth as we were doing this and went offside 2-3 times....what in Sam Hell is that?
  
  In today's Daily Record, Mike McCreary is quoted as saying, "Why is our defense struggling? That's a tough question." No it's NOT. Maybe you need a community forum to let you know that your brother's defensive schemes are pathetic on a good night. We win because of our talent and in spite of your coaching philosophies. We made the playoffs two years in a row because Gantz, Hunter, etc's talent willed us there. Not because you are the 2nd coming of Vince Lombardi, or hell, even Coach MacFarland.
  
  The chatter is there in the crowd on the Wooster side. People have seen enough of the same ridiculous game plans and approaches to the same teams and games. When is Wooster going to get wise and bring someone in here that can utilize the talent we have and that is coming up...and looks like they give a damn on the sideline? Another quote in the Daily Record today, "They moved Jones around a bunch, and they didn't do that at all the first three games. They kinda changed some things up that they've done for a long time." Oh my god...are you serious? You mean Ashland has actually adapted to the skill they have this year and made adjustments? That does have to be puzzling considering this regime does none of that.
  
  I can't handle putting up with the McCreary's crappy philosophies and approaches to games anymore. I feel for the kids...I really do. They are the ones that suffer the most because of the ineptness of these guys. They're the ones that know they aren't being put in the right position or have the right strategies to be put in the best position to win games. I'm to the point (and I know I overheard others in the crowd last night saying the same thing) where I don't want to even waste my time or gas traveling to away games anymore. I sure as hell don't go to support the McCreary's, its for the kids and always has been, but this is now past the point of embarassment and ridiculousness. The time has come for Wooster to remove the McCreary's from the sideline. Go get somebody...anybody, that will right the ship and teach and show these kids what it takes to be a winner. Not what it takes to go 6-4 every year and be happy about it.
• you think you know

  

  CCRolly,
  
  I agree with what your saying, you guys had advantages at a couple of the skill spots and only went to them once or twice, I only saw one slant ran and I think it went for 30 yards on 3rd and 15. I give your players a lot credit for playing their hearts out till the end, could not figure out why you kept running the ball up the middle late in the game.
  
  Good Luck the rest of the season!
  
  Edit: I also hope all the players that were injured aren't serious and can continue this season!