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Kubbs steps down at Marion Pleasant

  • PHSalumbackintheday
    He's got a difficult task in front of him simply b/c he's replacing a winner. That's tough anywhere. Expectation levels are high whenever you go into a program that has succeeded like Pleasant. Much easier to build a program from nothing sometimes. I'm sure Jesse Miller at North Union might agree. I haven't seen them play firsthand in a few years now (not since the 1st round of the playoffs vs. St. Henry in '04), and it'll be interesting to see how the returners respond to not only a new coach but (more importantly) a down year of 6-4 in '09. Plus, the North Unions and Buckeye Valleys of the world are better than they have been in quite some time. Congrats to Coach Miller and BV's coach (not sure of his name). IMO, viewing the situation from out of town now, it seems like the overall athleticism of each class has dimished some. Explain: they still have better athletes than local opponents recently, but it just doesn't appear like they have AS MANY like they did w/ the groups throughout the 90's and early 2000's. Obviously, it was only a couple years ago they went to the state semis too... Maybe I'm just imagining things. Any thoughts?
  • Gazoo
    Aaron Cook has one big thing going for him and that is the continuity of the coaching staff. Mike Carroll will continue as the Defensive Coordinator and Jason Warner and the other coaches will be back as well. They all have worked well together in the past. It will be different now that Aaron is the head coach but you won't see huge changes. I predict the offense will be more balanced with the pass and run closer to a 50-50 balance than before. There is some pretty good talent coming up the next few years so I fully expect a playoff run in 2010 by the Spartans. Anything less would be disappointing.
  • PHSalumbackintheday
    I agree that there is continuity (for this next year or so), but I thought Carroll is expected to retire at the end of the 10-11 school year (or the year after - I'm not exactly sure). Coach Carroll runs a 5-2 Monster scheme, and there sure aren't a ton of those guys truly versed in the 5-2 anymore. They may think they know it, but they're only skimming the surface of what the 5-2 really is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jason Warner's not in the school system, and so that takes away 2 of the most important people in the PHS program (Kubbs & Carroll) in the HS building within a year, year and a half. The biggest issue I see is that Cook has never been a coordinator and potentially could be looking for a coordinator on the other side of the ball when Carroll retires. In the heat of the battle, that could be his biggest weakness or struggle. Kubbs (O) and Carroll (D) have called plays for the last 21 and 14 seasons, respectively. It's a different ballgame (literally & figuratively) when you actually step into the play-calling role. Having better athletes than most other schools will definitely help in this area. Might be rough in his first game ever against St. Henry though...

    Secondly, I think Cook really hasn't been anywhere outside of PHS to develop a more rounded philosophy of football, coaching, and running a program. Not that people want to lose, but sometimes being a part of losing program & staff is the best learning experience - it gives you new ideas, how to deal with troublesome, griping kids or parents, or even staffs that don't work well together, and a willingness to try new things to turn or change the direction of a program. As a coach, you always continue learning, and sometimes being on the other side gives you a better learning experience than just having W after W handed to you by the MOAC's of the world. He was at Mt. G for a single year under Lane Warner. As a part-time outsider at Mt. G your first year of ever coaching, you DO learn but it's all a blur Year 1. Plus, he was under a PHS guy. I'm sure there were PHS concepts in place, and that's likely what Coach Cook saw that first year b/c they were familiar concepts.

    I worry that PHS administrators looked at this opening more as a "get it taken care of" situation rather than a "let's find THE BEST person for this job" situation and should have disregarded Lane Warner's administrative position or even opened it up outside the district. Football is what has driven PHS the last 20 years. People around the state know about PHS b/c of football. FB is what has helped all the other sports at the school improve - including female sports. It's brought a ton of money into the district, and people move into the district simply b/c of the sports. It all started b/c of football, and I just don't think the hiring process was viewed as that big a priority - or at least to that high of degree.

    At the end of the day, I'm behind whoever is the new PHS coach. As an alum, I want them to win. Please take my comments as concerns, and just that. They are definitely not ridicule for Coach Cook. I've known Aaron, and I wish him the best.

    Just making conversation pieces for a forum!
  • King Curtis
    I do know that Lane really wanted this job and was willing to make whatever concessions were needed to make it happen.

    When it comes down to it, Pleasant did NOT find the BEST person for this job and they will pay for it.
  • tonto
    Ditto
  • King Curtis
    But this really shouldnt surprise anybody given how things work.