Week 2 Franklin Furnace Green (1-0) @ Fort Frye (1-0)

• ffkapono

  Poor Green has to make the long trip to get destroyed.
• notredamerudy

  IF you are going to make a post and make fun of a team......GET THE RECORD CORRECT FF Green is 1-0..........do your homework BEFORE you make a post
• ffkapono

  Ohh I thought they lost.
• ffkapono

  My bad forgot they played Manchester who hasent won a game in 20 years
• notredamerudy

  you should not even be allowed to start a thread........................you must be what -----12 13 at the oldest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
• virgil

  he said you were 12. hahaha. hey rudy, i'm gonna take a big guess that you're from wherever it is that green is from?
• ffkapono

  Green has to come to Beverly and play a FF team that is on a role.Last season this game was 42-0 at half.This will probably be the last times these teams play for awhile.
• The_Brigole13

  Eric Huck (A.K.A. The Diabolical Defensive Genious) names the scores...
• virgil

  well rudy, since you won't answer my question, i wouldn't make the long trip to beverly if i were you.
• notredamerudy

  No I am not from green.....live in Fairfield County....but have ties to the area...
• j_crazy

  

  Not a good sign that GoChiefs edited that post.
  
  
  I caught on JoeEitel.com that FFG had won and was coming here to correct kapono.
  
  FYI dude, it's low brow to start off your thread like that.
  
  sure FFHS should win the game, it might not be close, and it is a long drive, but do it in the second post.
• ffkapono

  Fort Frye is better this season.They play as a team and have a ton of team speed.Leader of this team is SR RB Colton Skinner vs River he had 6 rushes for 96 yards and 4 catches for 77 and 3 scores.That's 17 yards a touch vs River who in my opinion is better then Green.Eddie Watson passed 8 of 12 with 100 yards passing and 78 rushing.He had a 45 yard td run.He also had a 75 yard punt return for a score.Fort Frye needs to focus on getting the ball to the wideouts- Shon Smith,Chandler Lang,and Matt Klinger.Also I look for Spencer Lang to have a great game.Earth Skinner,Wind S.Lang,and Fire Watson should dominate. Green 6 Fort Frye 56
• I drain 3's

  Anybody know if Fort Frye is going to up there OOC schedule in the near future? I'd like to see them add some heavier competition.
• barbarian

  Huck is doing it right. He needs to get kids out, and kids don't want to go through 2-a-days and offseason weight lifting when they know they'll probably only win 2 games. So they dumped their OOC schedule and are playing teams they can beat and dominate. The average 15 year old considering going out for the team doesn't really think about strenghts of schedules. He just sees that final record is 6-4, 7-3. Now all that work doesn't seem so bad. Look for numbers to go up for them. Once that happens they will probably start increasing the quality of their ooc opponents. For example, maybe next year drop FFG and get a Belpre.
  
  That's how I'd build a program anyway. It's a slow process, and hopefully for the people who likes football in Beverly they will let Huck do his job.
• ffkapono

  Huck is doing a good job.He turned Eddie Watson and Tanner Robinson in 2 Qbs over night.Kids that had never played the position and now seem like naturals.It be awesome if they could get Marietta or Williamstown on the schedule.Huck has did an amazing job but he also has a lot of talent.These kids were all very good in Jr high.The talent has been here just a lot of kids have seem to quit.He gets players who have quit in the past like Herndon and Shon Smith to play.With the loss of Jordan Anderson this team is an injury away from being in trouble.Very thin now at skills guys off the bench.
• barbarian

  It also has helped them that the PVC hasn't been too terribly strong overall the past couple of years and they are competing well in the league. Willytown and Marietta may be a bit much yet. He needs to sustain it a couple more years before going too crazy. Honestly, the whole strength of schedule thing is only trumpeted by us honks on the internet. The casual fan cares very little about strengths of schedules.
  
  Yes he has talent, but what winning does is get the fringe player out. Those are the kids who aren't extremely talented, but with teaching and guidance can learn their role and do it well. I'm an MC fan and from what I've observed that is what keeps MC going. You have to have the raw talented ones don't get me wrong, but without the others they can't do anything. That's what I see happening at FF. The best player on FF last year was an OLB or DE. The kid literally smashed Kinchen on a run at the goal line and was all over the field the rest of the game. I don't know if he got any post seasons awards and I doubt he went on to play at the next level (maybe he wasn't a sr.?) but he was a solid football player. I hope they can sustain it when there are a couple years of not as much raw talent. That will be the question.
• ffkapono

  His name was Cole Dutton and he set a record vs Monroe with 21 solo tackles that game.The sad thing is he tore up both shoulders.He hurt his left shoulder vs Frontier and missed the last 4 games.He had 59 tackles in 5 games and was not even invited to the BACF game.
• enigmaax

  barbarian;466341 wrote:Huck is doing it right. He needs to get kids out, and kids don't want to go through 2-a-days and offseason weight lifting when they know they'll probably only win 2 games. So they dumped their OOC schedule and are playing teams they can beat and dominate. The average 15 year old considering going out for the team doesn't really think about strenghts of schedules. He just sees that final record is 6-4, 7-3. Now all that work doesn't seem so bad. Look for numbers to go up for them. Once that happens they will probably start increasing the quality of their ooc opponents. For example, maybe next year drop FFG and get a Belpre.
  
  That's how I'd build a program anyway. It's a slow process, and hopefully for the people who likes football in Beverly they will let Huck do his job.

  
  Agree on most points, except Belpre was like 0-10 last year (does that really increase the quality?). I never really thought about it until now, but Fort Frye used to play all the local teams like Warren, Belpre, Morgan. Seems like they didn't always fare so well but that is just off the top of my head. Those were probably good for the gate, but going back to what you said.....if you aren't going to play for a state title, you might as well play to win as much as possible and have your kids feeling good about the team/school.
  
  Waterford has done that within the last 15 years (after being one of the worst programs in the country) and it has just changed the whole attitude of the school and community. A few years ago they went 9-1 and missed the playoffs, but would you rather have 9-1 and miss the playoffs or 1-9 and miss the playoffs while getting beat 40-0 on a regular basis?
  
  Scheduling creampuffs is okay, but the only knock I have on the way FF is doing it is that half of their schedule is D-VI. A couple of those are league games, plus the rivalry game with Waterford - but maybe they could find some crappy D-V schools to beat on instead of Green and Rosecrans (back to Belpre)?
• The_Brigole13

  I would love to see Fort Frye pick up the powerhouse of West Virginia football (Williamstown). Fort Frye would not only compete, but win most of the time.
• enigmaax

  The_Brigole13;466994 wrote:I would love to see Fort Frye pick up the powerhouse of West Virginia football (Williamstown). Fort Frye would not only compete, but win most of the time.

  
  Eh...I'm not sure I believe that. Williamstown could certainly find some better competition playing an Ohio schedule, even locally, but I don't think any of the FF teams of the last decade would've beaten them. Fort Frye is getting better and top to bottom, Ohio has better teams. But the best WV teams are still way better than mid-to-lower level M.O.V. teams for the most part.
  
  I know someone will throw out the Marietta win over state champ Parkersburg South and Belpre's upset over Williamstown a few years ago. But those games were exactly that (and thats why we remember) - upsets. Those don't happen "most of the time".
• barbarian

  enigmaax;466990 wrote:Agree on most points, except Belpre was like 0-10 last year (does that really increase the quality?). I never really thought about it until now, but Fort Frye used to play all the local teams like Warren, Belpre, Morgan. Seems like they didn't always fare so well but that is just off the top of my head. Those were probably good for the gate, but going back to what you said.....if you aren't going to play for a state title, you might as well play to win as much as possible and have your kids feeling good about the team/school.
  
  Waterford has done that within the last 15 years (after being one of the worst programs in the country) and it has just changed the whole attitude of the school and community. A few years ago they went 9-1 and missed the playoffs, but would you rather have 9-1 and miss the playoffs or 1-9 and miss the playoffs while getting beat 40-0 on a regular basis?
  
  Scheduling creampuffs is okay, but the only knock I have on the way FF is doing it is that half of their schedule is D-VI. A couple of those are league games, plus the rivalry game with Waterford - but maybe they could find some crappy D-V schools to beat on instead of Green and Rosecrans (back to Belpre)?

  
  Well when I typed Belpre I knew I was setting myself up. Replace Belpre with another school. But actually yes I think Belpre is an upgrade over Green even if they did go 0-10 last year. Replace Green with Meadowbrook. They're D4, but FF probably could play with them even if they don't win. The idea would be to upgrade toward the playoffs. Right now FF shouldn't be worried about playoffs. If they make it then that's just even better. Then you can start molding your schedule so that 8 wins easily gets you in. I always thought Fort Frye would be a perfect place to develop a football program for a young coach that was interested in being somewhere for the long haul.
• enigmaax

  barbarian;467215 wrote:Well when I typed Belpre I knew I was setting myself up. Replace Belpre with another school. But actually yes I think Belpre is an upgrade over Green even if they did go 0-10 last year. Replace Green with Meadowbrook. They're D4, but FF probably could play with them even if they don't win. The idea would be to upgrade toward the playoffs. Right now FF shouldn't be worried about playoffs. If they make it then that's just even better. Then you can start molding your schedule so that 8 wins easily gets you in. I always thought Fort Frye would be a perfect place to develop a football program for a young coach that was interested in being somewhere for the long haul.

  Yeah, I agree...even on Belpre. Just thought it was funny that you used them as an example when they were 0-10. That isn't going to happen again now that they are in the TVC Hocking anyway and they'll probably be automatic for at least 4 wins every year. Beat them in a good year and its that much better.
• ffkapono

  The year Belpre beat Wstown was the same year Fort Frye beat Belpre.FF went 1-9 that year but would have been better if they don't lose Mason Lang the next week.Monroe Central would beat Wstown every year.Wv football is a joke.PS Rosecrans is a playoff team like every year.
• enigmaax

  ffkapono;467574 wrote:The year Belpre beat Wstown was the same year Fort Frye beat Belpre.FF went 1-9 that year but would have been better if they don't lose Mason Lang the next week.Monroe Central would beat Wstown every year.Wv football is a joke.PS Rosecrans is a playoff team like every year.

  
  Yeah, again...upsets happen. Monroe Central would probably beat Williamstown every year. Fort Frye might pull an upset every now and then, but would not beat them most of the time, just like Fort Frye has beaten Monroe Central/Woodsfield about twice in 25+ years.
  
  Rosecrans has made the playoffs three times this century - I don't call that anything "like every year" - and also has about 1/4 of the number of boys as Fort Frye. Fort Frye should beat them most of the time no matter how good they are - just like Fort Frye should've beaten Beallsville most of the time but beat them about twice in 25+ years.
• ffkapono

  Fort Frye is a program on the rise.They have talent and have a great group of Jr high boys coming up.I hope they can get Jordan Anderson back next season.Finally the core of good Jr high over the past are kicking in.