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Hoover's...."Transfers".

  • skank
    According to Todd Porter, Hoover has five (5) transfers this year. The Shamus Johnson kid from the Houston area is the only well documented one. But Hertler says he doesn't want to mention any names, but he did talk about a sophomore RB from a Northern Stark County school, and a rumored RB from the Akron area. Hertler did say that the transfers will help the team this year.

    Hertler? Hertler? Isn't that the guy who after Massillon beat Hoover several years back made the comment, "We're proud of our hometown boys"?
  • Art Modell
    Sounds like Steubenville.
  • FairwoodKing
    Art Modell;445739 wrote:Sounds like Steubenville.

    We can't help it that local football players would rather play for us.
  • GoChiefs
    Just consider the source Fairwood.
  • FairwoodKing
    GoChiefs;445750 wrote:Just consider the source Fairwood.

    Yes, I'm taking that into account.
  • THE4RINGZ
    At least I got a job in the district.

    Sincerely,

    Justin Zwick's Father.
  • coyotes22
    Art Modell;445739 wrote:Sounds like Steubenville.

    I sent you a pm.
  • Big Al Carter
    GoChiefs;445750 wrote:Just consider the source Fairwood.

    And look who started this thread. Really? Really? A mASSillon guy, wants to ask about another team, "receiving" new transfers? Do you have proof that Hoover got any kids this year? Didnt think so.
  • bases_loaded
    Steubenville, Massillon, and Hoover fans fighting about transfers lol. Steubenville had guys who went to middle school in Weirton on their roster a few years ago, thats not even the same state haha
  • skank
    THE4RINGZ;445785 wrote:At least I got a job in the district.

    Sincerely,

    Justin Zwick's Father.

    Justin had the option of playing in the podunk Wooster/Orrville area, or for one of the most tradition rich programs in the history of the world. He choose right.

    Maybe Bill Zwick got sick of dodging Amish buggies in the Wooster/Orrville area.
  • bases_loaded
    skank;446398 wrote:Justin had the option of playing in the podunk Wooster/Orrville area, or for one of the most tradition rich programs in the history of the world. He choose right.

    Maybe Bill Zwick got sick of dodging Amish buggies in the Wooster/Orrville area.

    He accomplished more in that podunk town than he did at that broken down, poor ass, welffare state, ex steel town.
  • Tiernan
    C'mon isn't living in the Can-Mass-Orr tri village area kinda like sleeping with your cousins? Y'all switch off on your mothers and sisters, why not football players?
  • darbypitcher22
    if you want people to stop talking about it, just man up and beat the teams that have all the transfers. No excuses, find a way to win and it will stop the talk
  • skank
    bases_loaded;446421 wrote:He accomplished more in that podunk town than he did at that broken down, poor ass, welffare state, ex steel town.

    Maybe, but playing Wooster, Triway, Fairless....those types of schools, IS NOT THE SAME, as playing Mckinley, Warren, St. Ignatius....those types of teams. Get it?
  • skank
    Tiernan;446429 wrote:C'mon isn't living in the Can-Mass-Orr tri village area kinda like sleeping with your cousins? Y'all switch off on your mothers and sisters, why not football players?

    This from a guy who is too embarrased to tell us what city/school he's from.
  • skank
    darbypitcher22;446449 wrote:if you want people to stop talking about it, just man up and beat the teams that have all the transfers. No excuses, find a way to win and it will stop the talk

    Actually pitcher, this thread is about just what I posted about, a guy who did make the comment, "where proud of our homegrown boys", who did accept transfers in the past. BTW, we're (Massillon) 4-1 vs Hoover, so I'm obviously not complaining. If someone wants to accept transfers, that's great, but don't complain about other schools who do it also.
  • skank
    Big Al Carter;445855 wrote:And look who started this thread. Really? Really? A mASSillon guy, wants to ask about another team, "receiving" new transfers? Do you have proof that Hoover got any kids this year? Didnt think so.

    Proof? Proof? Ah, yeah, Hertler said it himself in the Crapository sunday.
  • fish82
    Hoover can bring in all the transfers they want. They'll still be a non-factor in the title chase.
  • genghis dong
    One of the most tradition rich programs in the history of the world?

    You are kidding right? In the world? Come on you never even won a legit State title.
  • bases_loaded
    skank;446600 wrote:Maybe, but playing Wooster, Triway, Fairless....those types of schools, IS NOT THE SAME, as playing Mckinley, Warren, St. Ignatius....those types of teams. Get it?

    So you are telling me that playing for Massillon made him the great college QB that he was? Because he sucked...BUST of a recruit.
  • CCRolly
    Don't forget that Zwicks first year at Massillon they lost their playoff opener to Marion Harding. The same Marion Harding team that playing in the same Ohio Heartland Conference that Zwick played in at Orrville.
  • skank
    bases_loaded;448846 wrote:So you are telling me that playing for Massillon made him the great college QB that he was? Because he sucked...BUST of a recruit.

    Show me where I said that he was a great college QB....

    I didn't bring up JZ.

    But he was a great HS qb.
  • skank
    CCRolly;449343 wrote:Don't forget that Zwicks first year at Massillon they lost their playoff opener to Marion Harding. The same Marion Harding team that playing in the same Ohio Heartland Conference that Zwick played in at Orrville.

    Yeah, with the help of 153 penalty yds. and a fumble out of the back of the endzone, which should have been a touchback.

    Massillons recievers kept coming over to coach Shepas and telling him that when they would split out and ask the refs if they were lined up correctly, (on or off the ball), the ref wouldn't respond to them, when coach Shepas asked that particular ref about it at halftime, the ref kept walking and surprise surprise, he wouldn't respond to coach Shepas either.

    Tigers are flagged

    In playoff opener

    Marion Harding garners 17‑13 win;

    Refs hit Massillon with 15 penalties



    By JOE SHAHEEN

    Independent Sports Editor



    They say you can call holding on virtually every play in a football game and it seemed the officials in Saturday's Massillon‑Marion Harding regional quarterfinal playoff game were intent on doing just that.



    In the end, the eighth offensive holding penalty of the game against the Tigers nullified a 53‑yard Justin Zwick touchdown run and Marion Harding escaped Massillon with a 17‑13 victory as a stunned throng looked on at Paul Brown Tiger Stadium.



    Fifteen minutes after the game ended, the east stands of the venerable stadium remained crowded as Tiger partisans seemed to be waiting to wake up from a bad dream.



    "Penalties helped us a lot all night long," conceded Marion Harding coach Tim Hinton. "I know the people in Massillon are going to talk about that part of the game for a long, long time. But I don't control that part."



    Massillon was penalized a total of 15 times for 153 yards in the contest.



    Tiger coach Rick Shepas declined comment on the officiating but tipped his hat to the Presidents, who will get a chance to avenge a regular season‑ending loss to Mansfield when they meet the Tygers in a regional semifinal game next Saturday.



    "Marion Harding came in very excited for this football game and very well prepared," Shepas said. "They are very well coached. They have some outstanding skill players. And they did an outstanding job.



    "We had opportunities that we didn't take advantage of. We played very well at times.



    We hurt ourselves at times. I give my kids a lot of credit. They played with character all year long. We've overcome a great deal of adversity and made some great progress ourselves."



    David Abdul drilled a 48‑yard field goal to give the Tigers a 13‑10 lead in the game with 8:53 to play in the fourth quarter. It was Massillon's only tally in the second half of the game.



    Marion Harding then put together the game‑winning drive, beginning at its own 20 after Abdul's kickoff reached the end zone.



    Quarterback Kyle Adams picked up a first down at the 37 on a 14‑yard option keeper around left end. Three plays later, Rod Keller got the ball on the belly play and generated another first down at the 47.



    The Presidents kept grinding it out, reaching the Massillon 35. On second down, Adams dropped back to pass and nearly had his throw picked off.



    The reprieve was key as Adams, on the very next play, executed a throwback screen to Vacarro Bracy, who carried the ball down the left sideline 34 yards to the end zone for the go‑ahead score. It was only third reception all season long for the senior tailback.



    "We used that play last week against Mansfield Senior and had a big score on it," Hinton said."They didn't ask for the Mansfield tape. I don't know if they scouted that game or what. So I thought maybe it was worth a shot and they wouldn't recognize it, and they didn't."



    Jeremy Krausz got the extra point through the uprights and ‑ with 1:35 to play following the seven‑minute, 14‑play drive ‑ it was desperation time for the Tigers.



    Starting at its own 11, after yet another holding penalty on the kickoff return, Massillon made its final run. Perry James picked up 13 on a draw play. A motion penalty nullified a 20‑yard James run before Zwick hit Montale Watkins for a 20‑yard gain to the 44.



    A short pass to Jesse Robinson advanced the ball to the 47, but two incompletions later it was fourth‑and‑seven for Massillon. Zwick dropped back to pass, looked to his right then began to scramble left. The field seemed to open up in front of the junior signal caller and he turned on the jets down the sideline.



    As Zwick reached the 10‑yard line and it was clear he was going to score, an official trailing the play threw a penalty flag 20 yards behind the Tiger quarterback and bedlam erupted. Even the usually stoic Shepas was incensed, charging a few steps onto the field before thinking better of it.



    'The call was holding and the ball was placed at the Marion 38‑yard line with a few ticks on the clock remaining. A final‑play desperation throw toward the end zone was intercepted, ensuring the Presidents' triumph.



    "That's a great, great football team we had to play tonight," Hinton said. "Give Coach Shepas and that team a lot of credit. They had a lot of adversity on those penalties. They kept fighting back and fighting back. They did a heck of a job."



    The Presidents opened the game as if they were going to blow the Tigers right out of their own stadium, following a 40‑yard kickoff return by Travis Harrah that gave the visitors superb field position at their own 45‑yard line.



    Adams got Harding off on the right foot with a 21‑yard completion to Derick Ross to the Massillon 35. Rod Keller's five‑yard run picked up another first down at the Tiger 23, and one play later Adams dropped a perfectly thrown pass into the arms of Rick Beechum in the end zone for six.



    Krausz added the point‑after‑touchdown and Marion Harding was celebrating a 7‑0 lead at 9:00 of the first quarter.



    Massillon went three‑and‑out on its initial possession of the evening and a 22‑yard punt return by Ross gave the Presidents good field position once again at midfield.



    The Tigers got the ball back when Jared Frank recovered Ross's fumble after Adams completed a screen pass to the elusive wideout.



    Massillon embarked on a 13‑play drive ‑ featuring eight carries by senior running back Perry James ‑ but the Tigers had to settle for a 51‑yard Abdul field goal at 10:05 of the second quarter to make it a 7‑3 Marion Harding advantage.



    Harding moved from its 20 to the Massillon 40 on its ensuing possession. The drive stalled when Tiger cornerback Matt Shem made a great recovery to bat away a sure touchdown pass to Ross and the Presidents were forced to punt.



    Massillon, taking over at its 10‑yard line, began to click. Zwick hit Robinson along the right sideline for 13 yards.



    James swept around left end for 12 yards. Zwick meshed with Devon Jordan along the left sideline for 11 yards.



    And James went up the middle for 10 more yards. On four consecutive plays, the Tigers picked up four first downs, moving to the Harding 41.



    Two more James runs netted 11 yards and another first down but a holding call against the Tigers set up second‑and‑14.



    Zwick dropped back and found Jeremiah Drobney all alone in the middle of the Harding secondary for a 30‑yard pickup to the 3.



    Another holding call moved the ball back to the 11 but Zwick got it back and more, scrambling around his right side behind a fine block by James for the touchdown.



    Abdul's kick made it 10‑7 at 2:17 of the first half and that score held at intermission.



    MASSILLON 13

    MARION HARDING 17

    M MH

    First downs rushing 8 9

    First downs passing 6 6

    First downs by penalty 1 1

    TOTAL first downs 15 16

    Net yards rushing 189 170

    Net yards passing 114 133

    TOTAL yards 303 303

    Passes attempted 18 18

    Passes completed 8 11

    Passes intercepted 1 0

    Punts 3 2

    Punting average 54 30

    Fumbles/Lost 1/0 2/2

    Penalties 15 7

    Yards penalized 153 51



    MASSILLON 0 10 0 3 13

    MARION 7 0 3 7 17



    SCORING

    MH ‑ Beechum 23‑yard pass from Adams (Krausz kick)

    M ‑ FG Abdul 50

    M ‑ Zwick 11‑yard run (Abdul kick)

    MH ‑ FG Krausz 31

    M ‑ FG Abdul 48

    MH ‑ Bracy 34‑yard pass from Adams (Krausz kick)



    INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS

    Massillon rushing: James 21‑123, Zwick 3‑56, King 2‑5, Oliver 1‑5.

    Marion rushing: Bracy 13‑76, Adams 7‑41, Keller 6‑21, Troutman 5‑15, Barron 2‑7.



    Massillon passing: Zwick 8‑17‑114 INT, Williams 0‑1‑0.

    Marion passing: Adams 11‑17‑133 2 TDs, Ross 0‑1‑0.



    Massillon receiving: Drobney 3‑65, Watkins 1‑20, Robinson 2‑16, Jordan 1‑11, Williams 1‑2.

    Marion receiving: Ross 4‑41, Bracy 1‑34, Beechum 1‑23, Pezley 2‑20, Braddy 2‑6, Woods 1‑9.



    Statistics courtesy of Richard Cunningham
  • CCRolly
    Jesus man...stop holding and get over it. Perry would've knocked you out of the playoffs that year anyways. They handled Harding in the Regional Final.
  • skank
    That means nothing and you know it. Just like the previous year when Massillon handled Perry 35-14 in the reg. season, then Perry turned around and spanked us in all facets of the game in week 11.

    Or the year Massillon beat Mckinley, turned around and lost to Tol. Whitmer, then McKinley hammered Whitmer the next week. The "we beat them, and they beat them, so we would have beaten them" card in sports is one with a fine fine line.