"Z" Watch
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Footwedge
Agreed.ytownfootball wrote: Would it work in a seven game series? In limited use, yep.
It's a versatility issue and one more option you can throw at teams. Point is Z adds a lot to this team, even in a limited role. -
davewill he play the next 2 games? it would be nice if he waits til he comes home but i guess he'll get the same reception either way. he needs to get as many games under his belt as he can. i'm thinking 10-15mins the next 2 games and 20ish sunday.
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hoops23
lol @ people mad about lettign Jiggles go for Z...
Seriously, Jiggles will never be nothing more than a bottom rotation guy. Love him and his personality, but let's be real here.
We have our young front court studs in JJ and Andy..
We also needed to keep Danny Green because he's going to develop into a solid rotation guy.
I wish D-BLOCK the best though, and hopefully he proves me wrong. -
just_a_swimmer
If I didn't know any better your posts make me think you are Z's mama and Jamison was taking your boys spot on the team. To call Jamison mediocre from long range is just biased.Footwedge wrote:
Jamison is mediocre from outside of 16 feet. Z can and does stretch the floor. Early on this year, Z's shot was off. But after that, he was really good.jordo212000 wrote: Playoffs? I prefer the front court of Shaq, Varejao, Jamison, and Hickson. Sure Z can hit an open jumpshot.... but so can Jamison. You need a guy underneath the hoop now that we have a stretch 4. My issue with Z is that Z is a statue defensively. Howard ate his lunch last year in the playoffs.
A crowded rotation just got more crowded. There goes some more of Hickson's minutes.
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As for Jackson, some of you are right, he probably wouldn't see much playing time next year either, but he might have had some decent trade value. They could have moved him for another piece.
I would love big Z to take 15 monutes or so from Jamsion. With Z on the court, the floor is truly stretched. With Jamison, not so much.
As for rebounding, Z can still clean glass. As another poster said, Z still gets tip ins. -
Footwedge
I posted a link which showed the deficiency in Jamison's shooting from 15-18 feet, 19-22 feet, and behind the arc. You might perceive my posts to be biased, but they are in fact, the stats.just_a_swimmer wrote:
If I didn't know any better your posts make me think you are Z's mama and Jamison was taking your boys spot on the team. To call Jamison mediocre from long range is just biased.Footwedge wrote:
Jamison is mediocre from outside of 16 feet. Z can and does stretch the floor. Early on this year, Z's shot was off. But after that, he was really good.jordo212000 wrote: Playoffs? I prefer the front court of Shaq, Varejao, Jamison, and Hickson. Sure Z can hit an open jumpshot.... but so can Jamison. You need a guy underneath the hoop now that we have a stretch 4. My issue with Z is that Z is a statue defensively. Howard ate his lunch last year in the playoffs.
A crowded rotation just got more crowded. There goes some more of Hickson's minutes.
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As for Jackson, some of you are right, he probably wouldn't see much playing time next year either, but he might have had some decent trade value. They could have moved him for another piece.
I would love big Z to take 15 monutes or so from Jamsion. With Z on the court, the floor is truly stretched. With Jamison, not so much.
As for rebounding, Z can still clean glass. As another poster said, Z still gets tip ins.
If I would dig up the stats link, and then post his mediocre shooting percentage numbers, would you agree with my post ? Obviously, you wouldn't. Because very few on these Cav threads believe the numbers that the NBA provides.
My opinion on Jamison, or any other player in pro sports, is based on the bottom line productivity numbers. I don't buy into any fluff that the media tries to shove down the fans' throats.
Like I said, if you want me to dig up the links proving that Jamison is a mediocre shooter from beyond 16 feet, then I'll do it. But if I do it for the 3rd time here, I don't want to be called biased by you and your cabel of Jamison lovers. Deal? -
dazedconfused
jiggles was a good guy with a great work ethic but very little talent. i wish him the best in his future endeavors (most likely okc) and thank him for his contributions over the past two seasons (mainly on the family photos lol). wish we could keep him instead of telfair but without telfair, we don't have jamison, so jiggles had to go...it's a business
and oh welcome back z -
se-alum
Did you also provide Hickson and AV's numbers from those same distances? Just asking, as I didn't see the post.Footwedge wrote:
I posted a link which showed the deficiency in Jamison's shooting from 15-18 feet, 19-22 feet, and behind the arc. You might perceive my posts to be biased, but they are in fact, the stats.just_a_swimmer wrote:
If I didn't know any better your posts make me think you are Z's mama and Jamison was taking your boys spot on the team. To call Jamison mediocre from long range is just biased.Footwedge wrote:
Jamison is mediocre from outside of 16 feet. Z can and does stretch the floor. Early on this year, Z's shot was off. But after that, he was really good.jordo212000 wrote: Playoffs? I prefer the front court of Shaq, Varejao, Jamison, and Hickson. Sure Z can hit an open jumpshot.... but so can Jamison. You need a guy underneath the hoop now that we have a stretch 4. My issue with Z is that Z is a statue defensively. Howard ate his lunch last year in the playoffs.
A crowded rotation just got more crowded. There goes some more of Hickson's minutes.
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As for Jackson, some of you are right, he probably wouldn't see much playing time next year either, but he might have had some decent trade value. They could have moved him for another piece.
I would love big Z to take 15 monutes or so from Jamsion. With Z on the court, the floor is truly stretched. With Jamison, not so much.
As for rebounding, Z can still clean glass. As another poster said, Z still gets tip ins.
If I would dig up the stats link, and then post his mediocre shooting percentage numbers, would you agree with my post ? Obviously, you wouldn't. Because very few on these Cav threads believe the numbers that the NBA provides.
My opinion on Jamison, or any other player in pro sports, is based on the bottom line productivity numbers. I don't buy into any fluff that the media tries to shove down the fans' throats.
Like I said, if you want me to dig up the links proving that Jamison is a mediocre shooter from beyond 16 feet, then I'll do it. But if I do it for the 3rd time here, I don't want to be called biased by you and your cabel of Jamison lovers. Deal? -
just_a_swimmer
I really don't care if you post the numbers or not. Only one thing matters to me and that is WINS and we been winning with him and looking pretty damn good doing it. Still doesn't change the fact that you sound like Z's mama.Footwedge wrote:
I posted a link which showed the deficiency in Jamison's shooting from 15-18 feet, 19-22 feet, and behind the arc. You might perceive my posts to be biased, but they are in fact, the stats.just_a_swimmer wrote:
If I didn't know any better your posts make me think you are Z's mama and Jamison was taking your boys spot on the team. To call Jamison mediocre from long range is just biased.Footwedge wrote:
Jamison is mediocre from outside of 16 feet. Z can and does stretch the floor. Early on this year, Z's shot was off. But after that, he was really good.jordo212000 wrote: Playoffs? I prefer the front court of Shaq, Varejao, Jamison, and Hickson. Sure Z can hit an open jumpshot.... but so can Jamison. You need a guy underneath the hoop now that we have a stretch 4. My issue with Z is that Z is a statue defensively. Howard ate his lunch last year in the playoffs.
A crowded rotation just got more crowded. There goes some more of Hickson's minutes.
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As for Jackson, some of you are right, he probably wouldn't see much playing time next year either, but he might have had some decent trade value. They could have moved him for another piece.
I would love big Z to take 15 monutes or so from Jamsion. With Z on the court, the floor is truly stretched. With Jamison, not so much.
As for rebounding, Z can still clean glass. As another poster said, Z still gets tip ins.
If I would dig up the stats link, and then post his mediocre shooting percentage numbers, would you agree with my post ? Obviously, you wouldn't. Because very few on these Cav threads believe the numbers that the NBA provides.
My opinion on Jamison, or any other player in pro sports, is based on the bottom line productivity numbers. I don't buy into any fluff that the media tries to shove down the fans' throats.
Like I said, if you want me to dig up the links proving that Jamison is a mediocre shooter from beyond 16 feet, then I'll do it. But if I do it for the 3rd time here, I don't want to be called biased by you and your cabel of Jamison lovers. Deal? -
hangonsloopy
Don't insult Z's mother like that!just_a_swimmer wrote: I really don't care if you post the numbers or not. Only one thing matters to me and that is WINS and we been winning with him and looking pretty damn good doing it. Still doesn't change the fact that you sound like Z's mama. -
just_a_swimmer
Z didn't really look to hot last night. His defense was really bad.
I know he will get better but man he looked rusty.