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ytownfootball

See...here's the thing. If you score more than any other player, you win the scoring title. You're the best "scorer" because you led the league in scoring.

Now if you want to discuss, what players surrounded him, how he scored etc....now you're talking about the MVP.

They have a category for both, and currently that is LBJ.

SQ_Crazies

ytownfootball wrote: See...here's the thing. If you score more than any other player, you win the scoring title. You're the best "scorer" because you led the league in scoring.

Now if you want to discuss, what players surrounded him, how he scored etc....now you're talking about the MVP.

They have a category for both, and currently that is LBJ.

Here is a man who uses more than 5% of his brain.

SQ_Crazies

Bottom line is, it is black and white, there are no variables, etc., when talking about scoring. Points are points. No one cares how you got them, how pretty it was, nothing like that. If you lead the league in scoring then you lead the league in scoring--there is not argument.

dat dude

Lol, the irony. Using 5% of your brain would be forming a conclusion based on a sigle statistic in a vacuum. Nobody is arguing how someone is awarded the scoring title.

Nate

What is the minimum number of games played to when scoring title?

For example

Games Played 70
Scored 2100
PPG 30

Games Played 82
Scored 2378
PPG 29

jpake1

SQ getting his balls busted by the rookies. He ain't gonna stand for that ha.

goldengonzo

SQ_Crazies wrote:
ytownfootball wrote: See...here's the thing. If you score more than any other player, you win the scoring title. You're the best "scorer" because you led the league in scoring.

Now if you want to discuss, what players surrounded him, how he scored etc....now you're talking about the MVP.

They have a category for both, and currently that is LBJ.
Here is a man who uses more than 5% of his brain.

More than 5% of my brain? You just look at a stat sheet and take it as fact.

SQ_Crazies

They're awarded the scoring title for being the best scorer. How is a guy the best scorer when another guy has the scoring title?! LMAO!

Using 5% of your brain would be forming a conclusion based on a sigle statistic in a vacuum.

This just really makes me LOL. So, when asked a simple question that can be answered by looking at ONE stat, I need to be coming up with a Hollinger-like formula based on everything we know to figure out who the best scorer is? Sorry. Scoring is based on one stat, so I'm not sure why I'd need others to help my argument. Scoring is points, period. Doesn't go any further than that.

SQ_Crazies

goldengonzo wrote: More than 5% of my brain? You just look at a stat sheet and take it as fact.

Is ESPN lying to me?! LOL

SQ_Crazies

Keebler wrote: What is the minimum number of games played to when scoring title?

For example

Games Played 70
Scored 2100
PPG 30

Games Played 82
Scored 2378
PPG 29

2378>2100

Not the other guys fault that his opponent only played 70 games. More points is more points.

jpake1

I vote for Dwade. I actually think he's closer to being #2 than he is at being #4. Until Durant and Anthony become elite defenders, they won't sniff the top 3 IMO. Melo isn't even the man on his own team, end of discussion. Durant has to actually make it to the playoffs, then show us something special. Howard and Paul also aren't top 3 IMO.

goldengonzo

SQ_Crazies wrote: They're awarded the scoring title for being the best scorer. How is a guy the best scorer when another guy has the scoring title?! LMAO!

Using 5% of your brain would be forming a conclusion based on a sigle statistic in a vacuum.

This just really makes me LOL. So, when asked a simple question that can be answered by looking at ONE stat, I need to be coming up with a Hollinger-like formula based on everything we know to figure out who the best scorer is? Sorry. Scoring is based on one stat, so I'm not sure why I'd need others to help my argument. Scoring is points, period. Doesn't go any further than that.

No, the problem is you think it's all about numbers. There are so many variables that go in towards that one number, that I BELIEVE it can lead to a debate about who is the best scorer in the league. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE TOP TWO SCORERS ARE SEPARATED BY .1 POINT.

I'll just remember to not debate basketball with you. The better team will always be the one with more wins and the better player will always be the one with better stats. I know your position now, thanks.

lhslep134

There is more than just PPG to determine best scorer. I think field goal percentage should also play a factor.

It's easy to score 30+ when you take 30 shots.

I'll take a player who scores 28 on 12/17 shooting than a player who scores 35 on 16/29 shooting any day of the week.

Nate

SQ_Crazies wrote:
Keebler wrote: What is the minimum number of games played to when scoring title?

For example

Games Played 70
Scored 2100
PPG 30

Games Played 82
Scored 2378
PPG 29
2378>2100

Not the other guys fault that his opponent only played 70 games. More points is more points.

If that is the theory, who won the NBA Scoring title in 2007-2008?

jpake1

SQ_Crazies wrote:
Keebler wrote: What is the minimum number of games played to when scoring title?

For example

Games Played 70
Scored 2100
PPG 30

Games Played 82
Scored 2378
PPG 29
2378>2100

Not the other guys fault that his opponent only played 70 games. More points is more points.

You said the NBA gives out the scoring title award to the best scorer in the league. You then imply that 2378>2100, which is true. However, the 2100 guy would win the scoring title award and in your view, be awared the best scorer in the league. But that contradicts you statement of the guy scoring 2378 is better than the 2100. Maybe the scoring title isn't so black and white when it comes to best scorer in the league.

Nate

jpake1 wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Keebler wrote: What is the minimum number of games played to when scoring title?

For example

Games Played 70
Scored 2100
PPG 30

Games Played 82
Scored 2378
PPG 29
2378>2100

Not the other guys fault that his opponent only played 70 games. More points is more points.
You said the NBA gives out the scoring title award to the best scorer in the league. You then imply that 2378>2100, which is true. However, the 2100 guy would win the scoring title award and in your view, be awared the best scorer in the league. But that contradicts you statement of the guy scoring 2378 is better than the 2100. Maybe the scoring title isn't so black and white when it comes to best scorer in the league.

That was the point I was getting to in my previous post.

The 2007 - 2008 Scoring Title went to Lebron.

Games 75
Points 2250
PPG 30

Kobe

Games 82
Points 2323
PPG 28.3

Nate

So in theory, SQ is saying Kobe should have won the scoring title if it is based on who scored more points regardless of games played..

This coming from a Cavs fan, so the Kobe loving talk is useless.

SQ_Crazies

Keebler wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Keebler wrote: What is the minimum number of games played to when scoring title?

For example

Games Played 70
Scored 2100
PPG 30

Games Played 82
Scored 2378
PPG 29
2378>2100

Not the other guys fault that his opponent only played 70 games. More points is more points.
If that is the theory, who won the NBA Scoring title in 2007-2008?

Well, LeBron won it. But Kobe scored the most points. They give it out based on average, that's fine. Average makes perfect sense, it doesn't really matter either way--more is more. End of story. Teammates, shot attempts, blah, blah, blah. None of it matters. Points are points, whoever scores more of them is the best scorer. So there you go, you can look at it multiple ways--total points or PPG. But that's it. Other than POINTS nothing else matters.

SQ_Crazies

Keebler wrote: So in theory, SQ is saying Kobe should have won the scoring title if it is based on who scored more points regardless of games played..

This coming from a Cavs fan, so the Kobe loving talk is useless.

I mean they give it out based on PPG. I have no control over that, so LeBron DID win it--to answer your question. But Kobe scored the most points, and my opinion doesn't change now that I see who it is, it isn't Kobe's fault that LeBron only played 75 games. Kobe scored more points, I would give the scoring title to Kobe. But the NBA goes PPG--which makes total sense to me too. Either way it's fine, bottom line is--most points wins. There shouldn't be any factor other than points to determine who the best scorer is. Points=scoring, scoring=points. When you play a game and lose 103-99--you can look into the game all you want, the bottom line is you didn't score enough points to win.

dat dude

So, the best scorer doesn't always win the scoring title? Shocking.

goldengonzo

SQ_Crazies wrote:
Keebler wrote: So in theory, SQ is saying Kobe should have won the scoring title if it is based on who scored more points regardless of games played..

This coming from a Cavs fan, so the Kobe loving talk is useless.
I mean they give it out based on PPG. I have no control over that, so LeBron DID win it--to answer your question. But Kobe scored the most points, and my opinion doesn't change now that I see who it is, it isn't Kobe's fault that LeBron only played 75 games. Kobe scored more points, I would give the scoring title to Kobe. But the NBA goes PPG--which makes total sense to me too. Either way it's fine, bottom line is--most points wins. There shouldn't be any factor other than points to determine who the best scorer is. Points=scoring, scoring=points. When you play a game and lose 103-99--you can look into the game all you want, the bottom line is you didn't score enough points to win.

But, but, but!!! I thought you said whoever leads the PPG stat is the best scorer?!?!?!

jpake1

Yea brother, back tracked just a bit on that one.

Mulva

You are completely incompetent if you can't see a difference between TOP scorer and BEST scorer.

ytownfootball

The problem is everyone wanting to argue the scoring title and the parameters set forth by the NBA. They are what they are and you can argue their legitimacy, but what's the point? The scoring title has no subjectivity involved.

If you want to talk about who you THINK is the best scorer based on subjective parameters, go for it, but you'll never come to a consensus.

j_crazy

kobe, lebron is #1 and #2.

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