How in the hell Does Jamison Help Cleveland.

• dat dude

  Footwedge wrote: Use your google button.

  Take your own advice and use the "google button" to at least spell the names correctly.
• I drain 3's

  Why is this even being debated? I thought it was already established a long time ago that this team was a failure because of the loss to Boston to open the season.
• wes_mantooth

  

  I drain 3's wrote: Why is this even being debated? I thought it was already established a long time ago that this team was a failure because of the loss to Boston to open the season.

  Thank you.....finally a voice of reason
• devil1197

  Its funny that its Footwedge and some blogger that dislike the trade, but everyone else including NBA people love the Cleveland deal.
  
  In the end this team will be better overall.
  
  1-0 when Jamison starts. Suck it.
• Footwedge

  ytownfootball wrote: Yeah I've watched. I've seen a guy that played like he just rolled into town. Shocking, I know. :rolleyes:
  
  AV better shooter than Jamison? Not so sure I agree with that. Andy shoots the paint, and the paint nearly exclusively.
  
  Just not sure why you're so dead set on this being a bad deal when he's played THREE games. You've stated your opinion, that's fine, quit trying to convince me chief, I won't decide 'till all the pieces have been brought together and worked together for what I deem a sufficient amount of time.

  I stated that the deal will end up being bad if..
  
  A. Jamison takes away minutes from AV...who is the better player, and
  B. ZZ doesn't come back
  
  You people act as if Jamison is Jordan reincarnated.
• Footwedge

  dat dude wrote:

  Footwedge wrote: Use your google button.

  Take your own advice and use the "google button" to at least spell the names correctly.

  Occasionally I misspell words. So crusssssify me.
• devil1197

  We act like Jamison is Jordan?
  
  No you act like he is some fucking 10th grade basketball player. Quit being about bitch about the trade and STFU.
• Footwedge

  devil1197 Show this PostThe contents of this message is hidden because devil1197 is on your ignore list.
  
  
  ^^^With all your bitchin when the Cavs went 43 and 11....I just can't imagine how upset you are now with how the team is playin.
• devil1197

  Footwedge wrote: devil1197 Show this PostThe contents of this message is hidden because devil1197 is on your ignore list.
  
  
  ^^^With all your bitchin when the Cavs went 43 and 11....I just can't imagine how upset you are now with how the team is playin.

  Couldn't stay away from my posts eh?
  
  The team is implementing a solid 20-10 guy and getting their PG (who missed over a month of basketball) back into groove. They were making roster adjustments against two of the better teams in the entire NBA (Denver and Orlando) and against a CHA team that has owned Cleveland all year long with our old roster.
  
  I could care less how this team is playing now, some people don't get boners about regular season records.
  
  Your arguments are weak, please once again quit comparing a guy who shoots strictly layups and dunks against a guy that is around the perimeter. Jamison is going to have a lower FG % because his shot selection is much more difficult. I'll take a PF who can score at the rim (see Hornets game) and can step back to hit the perimeter shot any day over a PF who can only slash to the hoop for layups. Please don't say a guy is dwindling when he is putting up more ppg and rpg than his career averages while shooting at basically the same clip. Everyone knows AV is a better defender, this wasn't the reason why Cleveland brought Jamison in.
  
  You've acted like a little bitch for the past two weeks, people are tired of it. We know you hate the trade, you won't talk anyone out of liking the trade. I am being blunt because its ridiculous how bad you are making yourself look like.
• pkebker

  By footwedges theory, any player who has a worse shooting percentage than AV is worse than AV....not sure the actual shooting percentages are(and i'm too lazy to look them up), but I would assume Kobe, LeBron, DWade all have worse shooting percentages simply because they shoot shots outside the paint, which AV does not.
• devil1197

  pkebker wrote: By footwedges theory, any player who has a worse shooting percentage than AV is worse than AV....not sure the actual shooting percentages are(and i'm too lazy to look them up), but I would assume Kobe, LeBron, DWade all have worse shooting percentages simply because they shoot shots outside the paint, which AV does not.

  Yes, they all shoot worse than AV.
• 3reppom

  

  Andy is not an offensive player, not at all. There is a reason that his man sags off him to double up Shaq or LeBron every time, he has limited offensive skills, poor hands, no handle and a wildly inconsistent shot. Having Jamison on the floor is like having a running QB in football. It makes the defense stay honest and respect everyone on the offense and it takes away the man advantage that a defense gets when you play an offensive non entity like Andy. Everything that Andy, or JJ for that matter, lack when they plays power forward Jamison has in spades. I really don't know why anyone would continue to argue that this was a bad trade. There was a glaring hole at the power forward position from the offensive perspective, Hickson and Andy combine for 16 a game. Jamison averages 19 himself, what exactly is the downside? I don't really see it when you consider that Andy and JJ are still on the squad and Z will be bought out and be back.
• Footwedge

  They sag off of Jamison almost as much. Anderson does a lot of things better than Jamison. Andy should get 30-33 minutes...and Jamison maybe 15 minutes. I'm hoping in time, coach Brown figures it out...before the number 1 seed is blown.
• Footwedge

  pkebker wrote: By footwedges theory, any player who has a worse shooting percentage than AV is worse than AV....not sure the actual shooting percentages are(and i'm too lazy to look them up), but I would assume Kobe, LeBron, DWade all have worse shooting percentages simply because they shoot shots outside the paint, which AV does not.

  No..shooting percentage is just part of the equation. I think AV is our second best player these days now that Mo is struggling from both ends of the court.
  
  Andy gets quite a few more boards per minute than Jamison does. And from what I've seen Andy is twice as good on the defensive side of the ball. There just isn't any fire with Jamison.
• Footwedge

  Ohhh and plebkar, I'll bet you 3 nickels that Hickson starts over Jamison in the playoffs. Just my opinion.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I'll take that bet. Every one educated on this topic would take that bet. You can't actually believe that.
• ytownfootball

  

  Good Lord just when you thought you heard it all from footer out pops this beauty.
• Footwedge

  SQ_Crazies wrote: I'll take that bet. Every one educated on this topic would take that bet. You can't actually believe that.

  Well....that's my take. Anyone want a piece of that action....send me a pm.
  
  Here's the deal...Jamison starts in the first game of the playoffs. I lose. If he doesn't start game. I win.
  
  Bets must be placed before the Boston game tomorrow...or no action.
  
  Who wants a piece of the action? I'll take up to a dollar for each player...max investment for me is 50 clams (dollars). So hurry...make your bets. I'm putting my money where my pie hole is. All you brave souls have to invest is one lousy dollar!!
  
  And no welching on the bets either. Anyone hiding from honoring their gambling debts should be banned permanently.
  
  The starting 5 will include the King, Mo. DeLonte. Parker and Shaq. V , JJ or even Z could get the call as well...not to mention Gibson
  
  Time to put up or shut up.
• BTBalla

  I'll take that bet
  
  The Cavs starting lineup will be
  Mo
  Parker
  LeBron
  Jamison
  Shaq
  
  Its pretty simple to see that [/i]
• Footwedge

  BTBalla wrote: I'll take that bet
  
  The Cavs starting lineup will be
  Mo
  Parker
  LeBron
  Jamison
  Shaq
  
  Its pretty simple to see that [/i]

  Send me a PM so I have a record of it. You're in for a diollar....oh..and if Janmisom is hurt, you get a push or no bet. I would't want to clean up that way.
  
  Anyone else?
• pkebker

  You think LeBron will be our starting 4 in the playoffs??
• 3reppom

  

  Footwedge wrote: They sag off of Jamison almost as much. Anderson does a lot of things better than Jamison. Andy should get 30-33 minutes...and Jamison maybe 15 minutes. I'm hoping in time, coach Brown figures it out...before the number 1 seed is blown.

  you must be watching different games than I am. Anderson does two things better than Twan, playing defense and flopping, none of which occur on the offensive end of the floor where the biggest deficiencies are for the Cavs.
• k_boogy

  After Jamisons first game, which is understandable why he struggled playing with a new team, he is 16-28 and 2-5 from 3. Pretty nice stats if u ask me.
• devil1197

  The starting 5 for the playoffs will be starting tonight.
  
  PG: Mo
  SG: Parker
  SF: James
  PF: Jamison
  C: Shaq
• Footwedge

  BTBalla wrote: I'll take that bet
  
  The Cavs starting lineup will be
  Mo
  Parker
  LeBron
  Jamison
  Shaq
  
  Its pretty simple to see that [/i]

  Then send me a PM to confirm. So far...only one taker. I thought my box would be flooded by now. LOL.