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DeyDurkie5
man you literally love hockeys ballsrock_knutne wrote:
And an NHL season isn't long? We can agree do disagree, the road to the Stanley Cup is the hardest IMO and I love soccer.DeyDurkie5 wrote:DUDE, it takes 4 years of competition in beating out an entire countries worth of talent to even make it to the World Cup stage. Quit jacking off hockey and realize that while it is hard as shit to win, it's not THE hardest to win. Baseball has an enduring schedule, along with best of seven series throughout the playoffs.
Hockey is hard yes, but it certainly isn't the hardest to achieve. Hell winning the college football national championship is harder because in some circumstances, you lose 1 and you are done.
BTW, qualification for the World Cup is not as hard as you make it out to be. The majority of the qualification groups generally have only one world power in them followed by a decent team and then countries that just can't compete at that level. Not that it hasn't happened but you rarely see a world soccer power not make the World Cup finals. -
rock_knutne
At least they aren't man balls.DeyDurkie5 wrote: man you literally love hockeys balls
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Mr PatAn NHL season might be long, but it's no where near 4 years...
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mtrulz
Neither do you, fag.The_Crosby_Show wrote: You don't matter Mtrulz. -
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Wow, that hurt so much. STALKER!!!!mtrulz wrote:
Neither do you, fag.The_Crosby_Show wrote: You don't matter Mtrulz.
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Writerbuckeye
Yes, because good attendance always guarantees your franchise won't be moved.KnightXC1 wrote: Pistons won't be moving anywhere. Could very well be sold but it is high unlikely they will ever move out of Detroit as they are having a down year and are still top 10 in the league in attendance.
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KnightXC1
The MLB playoffs are not best of 7 all the way through. First round is 5 then the next two rounds are 7. And with the number of days off nowadays, it's hardly a grueling playoff. Hockey is 2 straight months of 7 game series where play is continuing the entire 60 minutes. Unlike basketball where guys stand around half the time, same goes for football where in a 60 minute game you might have 8 minutes where actual play takes place. World Cup lasts a month and they play what 7-8 games max if I'm correct. Baseball has a long season but the game is not as taxing as the other 3 sports.
Writer - it's not just about attendance but I brought that up because someone else did. Mrs. Davidson hopefully won't sell the team to someone who wants to take the team somewhere else. I highly doubt the Pistons move out of Detroit. Would be like the Celtics moving out of Boston or the Lakers moving from LA. Just won't happen, hopefully. -
pkebker
You obviously have never played basketball if you think it is mostly standing around...KnightXC1 wrote: The MLB playoffs are not best of 7 all the way through. First round is 5 then the next two rounds are 7. And with the number of days off nowadays, it's hardly a grueling playoff. Hockey is 2 straight months of 7 game series where play is continuing the entire 60 minutes. Unlike basketball where guys stand around half the time, same goes for football where in a 60 minute game you might have 8 minutes where actual play takes place. World Cup lasts a month and they play what 7-8 games max if I'm correct. Baseball has a long season but the game is not as taxing as the other 3 sports.
Writer - it's not just about attendance but I brought that up because someone else did. Mrs. Davidson hopefully won't sell the team to someone who wants to take the team somewhere else. I highly doubt the Pistons move out of Detroit. Would be like the Celtics moving out of Boston or the Lakers moving from LA. Just won't happen, hopefully. -
KnightXC1
Actually, I have been playing basketball since I was a young kid and watch a lot of it as well and I understand the effort it takes to play. However, the NBA is different from any other type of basketball because the NBA is based around stars and having a lot of isolation plays where someone like Lebron or Kobe goes 1-1 with someone while the other 4 guys stand and watch. Now not all teams are like that but that is what the NBA is now. I have also played hockey and it is much more demanding physically then basketball is. There are possessions in basketball where guys basically do nothing and jog a little bit on defense. You are constantly moving in hockey and can't just sit back and watch like you can during a basketball game.
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pkebkerYou get many a lot of rests in hockey as well. You skate hard for a minute than get a break. Don't get me wrong, I thnk it takes athletes to be in incredible shape to play both sports, but I feel your assertion that NBA stand around is totally false. Even the best athletes in the NBA are drenched in sweat after each quarter, that in itself shows how hard they are working.
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rock_knutne
World Cup qualification is difficult, I'm not disputing this at all. The four year comments are facts but it's not as grueling as most would like to think. These qualifiers are spread out over a very long period of time, they go months in between games and as I posted earlier, the soccer powers are afforded an easier path by seeding. IMO, the 32 team World Cup finals are harder than qualifying but not as hard as it is to win the Stanley Cup. In the NHL playoffs your playing a game just about every other night for over two months, that is if you make the Stanley Cup finals.Mr Pat wrote: An NHL season might be long, but it's no where near 4 years... -
DeyDurkie5
rock_knutne wrote:
World Cup qualification is difficult, I'm not disputing this at all. The four year comments are facts but it's not as grueling as most would like to think. These qualifiers are spread out over a very long period of time, they go months in between games and as I posted earlier, the soccer powers are afforded an easier path by seeding. IMO, the 32 team World Cup finals are harder than qualifying but not as hard as it is to win the Stanley Cup. In the NHL playoffs your playing a game just about every other night for over two months, that is if you make the Stanley Cup finals.Mr Pat wrote: An NHL season might be long, but it's no where near 4 years...
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rock_knutne
I'm not sure I follow you on that one. If you're refering to an internaitonal team compared to a pro team, I would strongly disagree with you. With a few exceptions, most national teams in any sport are weaker than their pro counterparts. Not to say that certain countries do not produce better players in certain sports but comparing internationals to pro teams isn't even close IMO.DeyDurkie5 wrote:Yes you are playing a game, but you aren't playing a FULL countries talent on any given night. -
DeyDurkie5
I'm hungover and that came out wrong...You are playing a full countries talent compared to what you would be playing in an NFL game. I don't get why it's so hard for you to admit that the World Cup is the most grueling when in reality it is haha...4 years>>>>2 monthsrock_knutne wrote:
I'm not sure I follow you on that one. If you're refering to an internaitonal team compared to a pro team, I would strongly disagree with you. With a few exceptions, most national teams in any sport are weaker than their pro counterparts. Not to say that certain countries do not produce better players in certain sports but comparing internationals to pro teams isn't even close IMO.DeyDurkie5 wrote:Yes you are playing a game, but you aren't playing a FULL countries talent on any given night. -
Al Bundy
You can't have over 100% capacity.The_Crosby_Show wrote: Also if you want to talk attendance:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance
Top 15 attendance figures
Team-Attendance-Capacity
1. Montreal: 21,273, 100%
2.Chicago: 21,009, 106.6%
3. Philly: 19,458, 99.8%
4. Detroit: 19,408, 96.7
5. Calgary: 19,289, 100%
6. Toronto: 19,250, 102.4%
7. St. Louis: 18,811, 98.2%
8. Vancouver: 18,810, 102.1%
9. Buffalo: 18,462, 98.8%
10. Minnesota: 18,351, 101.6% (Every home game has been sold out)
11. Washington: 18,277, 100%
12. New York Rangers: 18,200, 100%
13. Ottawa: 17,924, 96.9%
14. San Jose: 17,577, 100.4%
15. Boston: 17,312, 98.6%
17. Pittsburgh: 17,064, 100.6%
19. Edmonton: 16,839, 100% -
rock_knutneDeyDurkie5 wrote:I'm hungover and that came out wrong...You are playing a full countries talent compared to what you would be playing in an NFL game. I don't get why it's so hard for you to admit that the World Cup is the most grueling when in reality it is haha...4 years>>>>2 months
And I don't get why you can understand that the World Cup is not "literally" a four year process. They could play all of those qualifiers in a matter of a month if they wanted to but they can't because of club duties. Another thing, they don't actually start qualifiers for over a year after the World Cup finals have been completed and in the case of Europe, it's a full two years because of the European championships which has a qualification round too.
Again, we can agree to disagree on this one, there's no other path to a title that's more physically and mentally grueling than the Stanley Cup. -
rock_knutne
Yes you can, standing room only and obstructed seating sales.Al Bundy wrote:You can't have over 100% capacity. -
GoPens
^^^Standing Room Only. -
Al Bundy
Then that is part of the capacity.rock_knutne wrote:
Yes you can, standing room only and obstructed seating sales.Al Bundy wrote:You can't have over 100% capacity. -
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Standing room. This has been debated many times on HF.Al Bundy wrote:
You can't have over 100% capacity.The_Crosby_Show wrote: Also if you want to talk attendance:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance
Top 15 attendance figures
Team-Attendance-Capacity
1. Montreal: 21,273, 100%
2.Chicago: 21,009, 106.6%
3. Philly: 19,458, 99.8%
4. Detroit: 19,408, 96.7
5. Calgary: 19,289, 100%
6. Toronto: 19,250, 102.4%
7. St. Louis: 18,811, 98.2%
8. Vancouver: 18,810, 102.1%
9. Buffalo: 18,462, 98.8%
10. Minnesota: 18,351, 101.6% (Every home game has been sold out)
11. Washington: 18,277, 100%
12. New York Rangers: 18,200, 100%
13. Ottawa: 17,924, 96.9%
14. San Jose: 17,577, 100.4%
15. Boston: 17,312, 98.6%
17. Pittsburgh: 17,064, 100.6%
19. Edmonton: 16,839, 100% -
Al Bundy
It makes the numbers highly questionable when the NHL is fudging the numbers.The_Crosby_Show wrote:
Standing room. This has been debated many times on HF.Al Bundy wrote:
You can't have over 100% capacity.The_Crosby_Show wrote: Also if you want to talk attendance:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance
Top 15 attendance figures
Team-Attendance-Capacity
1. Montreal: 21,273, 100%
2.Chicago: 21,009, 106.6%
3. Philly: 19,458, 99.8%
4. Detroit: 19,408, 96.7
5. Calgary: 19,289, 100%
6. Toronto: 19,250, 102.4%
7. St. Louis: 18,811, 98.2%
8. Vancouver: 18,810, 102.1%
9. Buffalo: 18,462, 98.8%
10. Minnesota: 18,351, 101.6% (Every home game has been sold out)
11. Washington: 18,277, 100%
12. New York Rangers: 18,200, 100%
13. Ottawa: 17,924, 96.9%
14. San Jose: 17,577, 100.4%
15. Boston: 17,312, 98.6%
17. Pittsburgh: 17,064, 100.6%
19. Edmonton: 16,839, 100% -
rock_knutne
I'm pretty sure 100% capacity is pre-determined seating. Seats that are available for regular sale. For instance, the capacity for a hocley game at Mellon Arena is different than let's say a concert or a basketball game.Al Bundy wrote:
Then that is part of the capacity.rock_knutne wrote:
Yes you can, standing room only and obstructed seating sales.Al Bundy wrote:You can't have over 100% capacity. -
Al Bundy
I agree it is different for different events, but each event also knows that they can sell a certian number of standing room only and still be within codes from the fire department and any other rules.rock_knutne wrote:
I'm pretty sure 100% capacity is pre-determined seating. Seats that are available for regular sale. For instance, the capacity for a hocley game at Mellon Arena is different than let's say a concert or a basketball game.Al Bundy wrote:
Then that is part of the capacity.rock_knutne wrote:
Yes you can, standing room only and obstructed seating sales.Al Bundy wrote:You can't have over 100% capacity. -
DeyDurkie5
But they don't, the spread it out over a 4 year period and the fact they play club and European championships pretty much proves my point lolrock_knutne wrote:DeyDurkie5 wrote:I'm hungover and that came out wrong...You are playing a full countries talent compared to what you would be playing in an NFL game. I don't get why it's so hard for you to admit that the World Cup is the most grueling when in reality it is haha...4 years>>>>2 months
And I don't get why you can understand that the World Cup is not "literally" a four year process. They could play all of those qualifiers in a matter of a month if they wanted to but they can't because of club duties. Another thing, they don't actually start qualifiers for over a year after the World Cup finals have been completed and in the case of Europe, it's a full two years because of the European championships which has a qualification round too.
Again, we can agree to disagree on this one, there's no other path to a title that's more physically and mentally grueling than the Stanley Cup. -
KnightXC1
You made my point for me. When hockey players are on the ice for a shift, they skate HARD for 45 seconds to a minute then come off and depending on the player may go right back on the next shift. It's different than the NBA where you get taken out and sit on the bench for a much longer period of time. I didn't say that all NBA players stand around because they don't watch. But if you were to watch say 2 or 3 guys on the court with Lebron or Kobe during a game and see how much they actually move on offense, you may be more surprised than you think. We can agree to disagree but from someone who has played both sports, hockey is tougher to play and more demanding.pkebker wrote: You get many a lot of rests in hockey as well. You skate hard for a minute than get a break. Don't get me wrong, I thnk it takes athletes to be in incredible shape to play both sports, but I feel your assertion that NBA stand around is totally false. Even the best athletes in the NBA are drenched in sweat after each quarter, that in itself shows how hard they are working.