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Do These Former/Current NBA Players Belong in the Hall of Fame?

  • SQ_Crazies
    Oh what the fuck ever, have you ever been there? I bet they have a shrine to LeBron there right now--in or not, anyone who is walking through the place thinks he is. The basketball HOF is stupid.
  • Trueblue23
    Robert Horry- Yes
    Mark Jackson- Leaning towards yes
    Grant Hill- Yes
    Stephon Marbury- Hell no
    Vince Carter- No
    Dennis Rodman- Yes
    Shawn Kemp- No
    Kevin Johnson- No
    Rasheed Wallace- LOL! Nope
    Dirk Nowitzki- Yes
  • 2kool4skool
    Skyhook79 wrote: "Rodman is a no brainer to me. He's arguably the best rebounder ever, and was a key player on two of the defining dynasties in NBA history."


    He might be top 20 but he not in the conversation for best ever.


    http://www.rauzulusstreet.com/basketball/nbarecords/careerrebounds.htm
    So the all-time leaders list is how we define the best at something? You think Robert Parish, Karl Malone, Buck Williams,and Kareem are better rebounders than Rodman? And does this translate to other things, such as if/when Lebron finishes with more career points than Kobe he'll be the better scorer in your mind?
  • SQ_Crazies
    Skyhook will probably never admit that LeBron is a better scorer than Kobe, even then.
  • 2kool4skool
    Trueblue23 wrote: Robert Horry- Yes
    Mark Jackson- Leaning towards yes
    Grant Hill- Yes
    Stephon Marbury- Hell no
    Vince Carter- No
    Dennis Rodman- No
    Shawn Kemp- No
    Kevin Johnson- No
    Rasheed Wallace- LOL! Nope
    Dirk Nowitzki- Yes
    Horry but not Rodman? I'm all for people having opinions, but could you please explain this?
  • SQ_Crazies
    ^I was wondering the same thing.
  • mallymal614
    2kool4skool wrote:
    Trueblue23 wrote: Robert Horry- Yes
    Mark Jackson- Leaning towards yes
    Grant Hill- Yes
    Stephon Marbury- Hell no
    Vince Carter- No
    Dennis Rodman- No
    Shawn Kemp- No
    Kevin Johnson- No
    Rasheed Wallace- LOL! Nope
    Dirk Nowitzki- Yes
    Horry but not Rodman? I'm all for people having opinions, but could you please explain this?
    I'm thinking the same thing. If Horry is in because of his 7 NBA championships, wouldn't that mean Rodman deserve the same since he has 5? Not to forget the number of years Dennis led the league in rebounding.
  • 2quik4u
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Skyhook will probably never admit that LeBron is a better scorer than Kobe, even then.
    what happened to trying to keep the Lebron Kobe arguments in the official Lebron Kobe debate thread?
  • SQ_Crazies
    LOL, he started it....not to mention, the main point really had more relevance to this topic than "The Debate" anyways.
  • Skyhook79
    SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL, he started it....not to mention, the main point really had more relevance to this topic than "The Debate" anyways.
    I never mentioned Kobe or Lebron. Like I said before your the Town Drunk on here only dumber and nobody really pays any attention to what you say.
  • Skyhook79
    2kool4skool wrote:
    Skyhook79 wrote: "Rodman is a no brainer to me. He's arguably the best rebounder ever, and was a key player on two of the defining dynasties in NBA history."


    He might be top 20 but he not in the conversation for best ever.


    http://www.rauzulusstreet.com/basketball/nbarecords/careerrebounds.htm
    So the all-time leaders list is how we define the best at something? You think Robert Parish, Karl Malone, Buck Williams,and Kareem are better rebounders than Rodman? And does this translate to other things, such as if/when Lebron finishes with more career points than Kobe he'll be the better scorer in your mind?
    I was just showing you the list. Are you telling me he should be in the same category as a rebounder as Wilt,Russell,Thurmond or even Wes Unseld?????
  • SQ_Crazies
    Skyhook79 wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL, he started it....not to mention, the main point really had more relevance to this topic than "The Debate" anyways.
    I never mentioned Kobe or Lebron. Like I said before your the Town Drunk on here only dumber and nobody really pays any attention to what you say.
    You're arrogant enough to think that "he" referred to you?
  • 2kool4skool
    Skyhook79 wrote:
    2kool4skool wrote:
    Skyhook79 wrote: "Rodman is a no brainer to me. He's arguably the best rebounder ever, and was a key player on two of the defining dynasties in NBA history."


    He might be top 20 but he not in the conversation for best ever.


    http://www.rauzulusstreet.com/basketball/nbarecords/careerrebounds.htm
    So the all-time leaders list is how we define the best at something? You think Robert Parish, Karl Malone, Buck Williams,and Kareem are better rebounders than Rodman? And does this translate to other things, such as if/when Lebron finishes with more career points than Kobe he'll be the better scorer in your mind?
    I was just showing you the list. Are you telling me he should be in the same category as a rebounder as Wilt,Russell,Thurmond or even Wes Unseld?????

    I think he's in that category, yes. I'd probably rank all 4 of them above him, but not by much. I think he's the best of the last 25 years if I was to break it into eras.

    I said "he's arguably the best ever" and you replied with "maybe top 20" and then backed it up with the all-time leaders list, which is a absurd way to rank people, hence my response.
  • Trueblue23
    Yea my fault on that one guys, simple typo.
  • Ender Wiggin
    Robert Horry
    Mark Jackson
    Grant Hill
    Stephon Marbury
    Vince Carter
    Dennis Rodman
    Shawn Kemp
    Kevin Johnson
    Rasheed Wallace
    Dirk Nowitzki


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  • sleeper
    Horry, Dirk, Rodman

    End list.
  • noreply66
    not yet--[no]
  • Prescott
    Below is a link to a Basketball Hall of Fame probability list for active players. Dirk is in, VC, and Hill are likely selections.The probability for the retired players on the list can be found by viewing that players career resume.


    http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_active.html
  • KnightXC1
    Why do people think Vince Carter is HOF worthy. What the hell has he done in his career to make him a HOF? OH he won a dunk contest and dunked over a an Italian guy in the Olympics. He has no business being there, especially with how below average he has been the last 5 years.
  • 2quik4u
    KnightXC1 wrote: Why do people think Vince Carter is HOF worthy. What the hell has he done in his career to make him a HOF? OH he won a dunk contest and dunked over a an Italian guy in the Olympics. He has no business being there, especially with how below average he has been the last 5 years.
    acting like that was some plain old dunk Dan Majerle could do
  • mallymal614
    Besides Lebron, Vince Carter may have been the most physically gifted and athletic player to ever play the game. He just never put it all together and it’s a shame because his upside was tremendous. Bruce Bowen said on ESPN that Vince is just as good as Kobe talent wise, but the difference between Kobe and Vince is that Kobe 'wants' it. He said he never got that out of Vince defending him. So I personally don't think Vince Carter is a Hall of Fame player, but I added him to the list because there are those who believe he does. I'm not sure why though.
  • krazie45
    Robert Horry yes....can't argue with 7 titles.
  • Footwedge
    Dirk and big shot Bob....none of the others including Rodman.
  • pmoney25
    I would probably say no to all of them with the exception of Rodman, he is a maybe. He is the only one on the list who I feel "dominated" a certain aspect of the game when he was on the floor. When he was playing, you expected him to get every rebound, dive after loose balls, play tough Defense.

    Robert Horry?? Why not John Salley? This would be the equivalent to letting Matt Millen into the Football Hall of Fame because he won 4 Superbowl rings.
  • KnightXC1
    2quick - Don't get me wrong, that dunk over Italian guy was amazing and one of the best dunks I have ever seen. However, one dunk and a dunk contest doesn't get you in the HOF. He has had an underachieving career and never gotten to the level he should have. Not a hall of famer in my mind.