Do These Former/Current NFL Players Belong in the Hall of Fame?
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mallymal614Keyshawn Johnson
Terrell Davis
Kurt Warner
Vinny Testaverde
Donovan McNabb
Priest Holmes
Brian Urlacher
Rodney Harrison
Tiki Barber
Drew Bledsoe -
Laley23Keyshawn Johnson - No
Terrell Davis - No (was a sure thing if he played longer)
Kurt Warner - Yes
Vinny Testaverde - No
Donovan McNabb - No
Priest Holmes - No (not enough yards, but the TDs are remarkable)
Brian Urlacher - Yes (second most dominant middle linebacker of his era, behind Ray Lewis)
Rodney Harrison - Yes (30 INT, 30 Sacks)
Tiki Barber - No (opposite of Holmes, not enough TDs, but does have over 10,000 yards)
Drew Bledsoe - No -
killdeerKeyshawn Johnson
Terrell Davis
Kurt Warner
Vinny Testaverde
Donovan McNabb
Priest Holmes
Brian Urlacher
Rodney Harrison
Tiki Barber
Drew Bledsoe -
se-alumYes to Warner
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Yes is bolded.mallymal614 wrote: Keyshawn Johnson
Terrell Davis
Kurt Warner
Vinny Testaverde
Donovan McNabb
Priest Holmes
Brian Urlacher
Rodney Harrison
Tiki Barber
Drew Bledsoe -
j_crazyKeyshawn Johnson - no
Terrell Davis - yes
Kurt Warner - yes
Vinny Testaverde - no
Donovan McNabb - maybe, but not yet
Priest Holmes - no
Brian Urlacher - no
Rodney Harrison - probably, PED's irks me
Tiki Barber - no
Drew Bledsoe - no -
Cleveland BuckYes to Kurt Warner. McNabb needs a few more good years and deep playoff runs. No to the rest of them.
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Skyhook79Kurt Warner thats it.
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Gblockwarner should be in ....he has a superbowl, 2 mvp's and the only quarterback to go to superbowls with two diff teams.
harrison and barber i would say no without seeing stats, but will hold judgment till i can actually look at career numbers.
holmes and davis got cut short by injuries and the rest i just dont think did enough. if mcnabb wins a sb next year then id put him in -
Fly4FunWarner.
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gorocks99Warner for sure, Urlacher maybe, Harrison maybe. Harrison was dirty as hell but he's the only 30 int/30 sack guy ever.
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september63Id say Warner is the only sure thing.
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NateKeyshawn Johnson NO
Terrell Davis NO
Kurt Warner YES
Vinny Testaverde NO
Donovan McNabb NO
Priest Holmes NO
Brian Urlacher YES
Rodney Harrison YES
Tiki Barber NO
Drew Bledsoe YES -
justincredibleKurt Warner is probably the only one that deserves to be in.
I'd vote for Vinny as well but it would be strictly a homer vote. -
se-alum^^^Alot of teams could vote for Vinny as a homer vote!!
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rock_knutneKurt Warner is a definite yes and a maybe for Donovan McNabb.
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NNNKeyshawn Johnson - no
Terrell Davis - no
Kurt Warner - marginal
Vinny Testaverde - no
Donovan McNabb - most underrated QB of the lifetime of anyone under age 30
Priest Holmes - no
Brian Urlacher - no
Rodney Harrison - regrettably, yes
Tiki Barber - explain below
Drew Bledsoe - no
My feeling on Tiki Barber is this. The great players are the ones who not only dominated the game, but they did everything they could to enable their team to have success. In the case of Tiki Barber, he was a big enough problem in the locker room his last two years that it caused a huge rift; the Giants underachieved as a result.
Barber was productive but a cancer. He left, the Giants handed the running back reins to a bunch of lightly-regarded unknowns, and they go win a Super Bowl. They're a much better team without him than they were with him.
If I had a HOF vote, I'd be not voting for Terrell Owens for the same reason; every locker room he's ever been in dissolves into pro-TO and anti-TO factions and the team underachieves. EVERY team he's ever been on has underachieved. Production be damned, these two guys do more to prevent their teams from having success than any other that I can think of in recent history. -
Laley23
Just so you know, you voted no for Terrell DAVIS, not OWENS. Maybe its still a no for you, but Davis won two SBs, so he certainly wasnt a cancer.NNN wrote: Keyshawn Johnson - no
Terrell Davis - no
Kurt Warner - marginal
Vinny Testaverde - no
Donovan McNabb - most underrated QB of the lifetime of anyone under age 30
Priest Holmes - no
Brian Urlacher - no
Rodney Harrison - regrettably, yes
Tiki Barber - explain below
Drew Bledsoe - no
My feeling on Tiki Barber is this. The great players are the ones who not only dominated the game, but they did everything they could to enable their team to have success. In the case of Tiki Barber, he was a big enough problem in the locker room his last two years that it caused a huge rift; the Giants underachieved as a result.
Barber was productive but a cancer. He left, the Giants handed the running back reins to a bunch of lightly-regarded unknowns, and they go win a Super Bowl. They're a much better team without him than they were with him.
If I had a HOF vote, I'd be not voting for Terrell Owens for the same reason; every locker room he's ever been in dissolves into pro-TO and anti-TO factions and the team underachieves. EVERY team he's ever been on has underachieved. Production be damned, these two guys do more to prevent their teams from having success than any other that I can think of in recent history. -
hoops23Keyshawn Johnson - No
Terrell Davis - Yes
Kurt Warner - Yes (easiest choice)
Vinny Testaverde - no
Donovan McNabb - maybe
Priest Holmes - no
Brian Urlacher - no
Rodney Harrison - yes
Tiki Barber - no
Drew Bledsoe - no -
brutus161Warner and Harrison.
How about Lorenzo Neal? Stats aren't great, but he was an awesome FB. -
NNN
Yes, yes I did. Terrell Owens is a cancer who divides locker rooms, Terrell Davis was not. Terrell Owens' teams have never won anything, Terrell Davis' teams did.Laley23 wrote: Just so you know, you voted no for Terrell DAVIS, not OWENS. Maybe its still a no for you, but Davis won two SBs, so he certainly wasnt a cancer.
I'd still vote no on Terrell Davis. His entire case was built around, "Yes, he had a short career, but look how dominant he was!" If there was no waiting period, he'd have gone in.
And then, as Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, and Mike Bell put up huge seasons, we'd all be kicking ourselves and questioning how we could have been so blind. -
2shoesHall Of Fame = GREATS of the game
Warner - highly probable
Urlacher/Harrison - boarderline
all the rest - no effin way -
mallymal614John Elway never gets a ring without Terrell Davis in my opinion.
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I'm not pickin' at you GBlock but I don't think that he's the only QB to go to SB's on two different teams.Gblock wrote: warner should be in ....he has a superbowl, 2 mvp's and the only quarterback to go to superbowls with two diff teams.
harrison and barber i would say no without seeing stats, but will hold judgment till i can actually look at career numbers.
holmes and davis got cut short by injuries and the rest i just dont think did enough. if mcnabb wins a sb next year then id put him in -
september63He is the only QB to START for different teams in the Super Bolw!!!