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NBA Finals Rematch, plus bonus Kobe going for 25K discussion

  • JakeGiant
    Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

    Thoughts?

    Oh yeah, Go Lakers!
  • devil1197
    He will be the youngest until Bron breaks it as he is breaking every scoring record with his age.
  • Trueblue23
    devil1197 wrote: He will be the youngest until Bron breaks it as he is breaking every scoring record with his age.
    Yea all of Kobe's "Youngest to Score ...." don't mean jack b.c they'll all be broken by James eventually, who will probably never lose those records b.c of the age rule. I'm cool with that.

    The game should be pretty good though. I don't think Kobe will hit 25k tonight, I think he needs 30 points on the dot. I say he goes for 26.
  • devil1197
    Serious note: Lakers should roll as Orlando isn't close to last years team imo.
  • Trueblue23
    devil1197 wrote: Serious note: Lakers should roll as Orlando isn't close to last years team imo.
    They were stupid for blowing up a roster that didn't need it.
  • devil1197
    Trueblue23 wrote:
    devil1197 wrote: Serious note: Lakers should roll as Orlando isn't close to last years team imo.
    They were stupid for blowing up a roster that didn't need it.
    Yeah shoulda paid Turk
  • Lovejoy1984
    It seemed like everyone on the old huddle knew getting Carter was a bad move, but all the talking heads on ESPN said it was such a great move and it would put them over the top.
  • sleeper
    devil1197 wrote: He will be the youngest until Bron breaks it as he is breaking every scoring record with his age.
    I was about to write the exact same thing.
  • Trueblue23
    HighRoller74 wrote: It seemed like everyone on the old huddle knew getting Carter was a bad move, but all the talking heads on ESPN said it was such a great move and it would put them over the top.
    If VC could stay healthy and accept a different role than he is used to, it very well could.

    BUT..

    Vince Carter is, and always has been a bitch, and much like Iverson, he will never sacrifice to win a ring.
  • Fly4Fun
    Ya, this record will only be around as long as LeBron let's it be around.
  • Lovejoy1984
    Trueblue23 wrote:
    HighRoller74 wrote: It seemed like everyone on the old huddle knew getting Carter was a bad move, but all the talking heads on ESPN said it was such a great move and it would put them over the top.
    If VC could stay healthy and accept a different role than he is used to, it very well could.

    BUT..

    Vince Carter is, and always has been a bitch, and much like Iverson, he will never sacrifice to win a ring.
    Agree with everything you said.
  • hoops23
    Yep, a lot of us were happy the moment it was announced that Hedo was leaving and being replaced by Wince Carter..

    This should be a great game and I can't wait for it honestly.. While it's not the same Orlando squad, they'll be wanting to prove something and LA has been shaky this month ( but so has Orlando)..

    Kobe will get 25k, there is no way he's going to leave that hanging with a chance to get it on National TV.. Even if he has to throw up 30 shots to get it.

    Lakers win, probably by a score of 107-100
  • Fly4Fun
    Speaking of Carter not being a good addition... I remember when people were floating the idea of the Cavs trading for him.... I would have died if that ended up happening. Carter, TMac, Iverson... those are just some players I really wouldn't want on my team if it was a Championship contending team. Now if the team had no chance, why not. But I don't think those guys have what it takes to put themselves aside and do what's best for the team.
  • Skyhook79
    JakeGiant wrote: Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

    Thoughts?

    Oh yeah, Go Lakers!

    The whole "youngest" to reach certain levels in points or whatever is pretty stupid to me, with the age to play in the NBA changing several times over the years. It should be by fewest # of games to reach a certain level of points.

    For example:

    Wilt took 492 games to reach 20,000 pts
    Jordan 617 games
    Kareem 683 games
    Bird 797 games
    Karl Malone 754 games
    Iverson 714 games
    Kobe 841 games
    Lebron currently has played 514 games and is at 14236 pts and will probally need another 210 games to reach 20000 pts giving him 714 games.


    The way Kevin Durant is scoring he may end up there pretty high also.
  • september63
    Wilt would have done it in 300 games had he not been banging so many chicks!!
  • ZombieKiller
    Kobe will get his 30, while taking 30+ shots.
  • Sage
    Durant will be the scoring champ before all is said and done.
  • wes_mantooth
    devil1197 wrote:
    Trueblue23 wrote:
    devil1197 wrote: Serious note: Lakers should roll as Orlando isn't close to last years team imo.
    They were stupid for blowing up a roster that didn't need it.
    Yeah shoulda paid Turk
    Yep. Not to mention that they should not have gotten rid of Courteny Lee...he flourished in their system.
  • wildcats20
    And now he is on the lowly Nets. Dumb, dumb move. What they really needed to do was leave the team alone and get rid of Ron Jeremy.
  • wes_mantooth
    Also, I agree with TrueBlue....when Lebron breaks these records, they won't be broken because of the age rule.

    I look for the Lakers to win this one, but who cares....I wish it was the playoffs already. We all know who the contenders are, so the discussions are getting very stale.
  • Fly4Fun
    Skyhook79 wrote:
    JakeGiant wrote: Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

    Thoughts?

    Oh yeah, Go Lakers!

    The whole "youngest" to reach certain levels in points or whatever is pretty stupid to me, with the age to play in the NBA changing several times over the years. It should be by fewest # of games to reach a certain level of points.

    For example:

    Wilt took 492 games to reach 20,000 pts
    Jordan 617 games
    Kareem 683 games
    Bird 797 games
    Karl Malone 754 games
    Iverson 714 games
    Kobe 841 games
    Lebron currently has played 514 games and is at 14236 pts and will probally need another 210 games to reach 20000 pts giving him 714 games.


    The way Kevin Durant is scoring he may end up there pretty high also.
    But they represent two different things...

    Yes, LeBron will be the youngest, but could have have got to those milestones faster game wise if he did spend 3-4 years in college first like some of the people above? Think how much better his game would have been before entering the NBA.

    So it's kind of silly to point at one being better. What's impressive is how LeBron was able to dominate while being so young, it's kind of foolish to just discount that.
  • wildcats20
    Fly4Fun wrote:
    Skyhook79 wrote:
    JakeGiant wrote: Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

    Thoughts?

    Oh yeah, Go Lakers!

    The whole "youngest" to reach certain levels in points or whatever is pretty stupid to me, with the age to play in the NBA changing several times over the years. It should be by fewest # of games to reach a certain level of points.

    For example:

    Wilt took 492 games to reach 20,000 pts
    Jordan 617 games
    Kareem 683 games
    Bird 797 games
    Karl Malone 754 games
    Iverson 714 games
    Kobe 841 games
    Lebron currently has played 514 games and is at 14236 pts and will probally need another 210 games to reach 20000 pts giving him 714 games.


    The way Kevin Durant is scoring he may end up there pretty high also.
    But they represent two different things...

    Yes, LeBron will be the youngest, but could have have got to those milestones faster game wise if he did spend 3-4 years in college first like some of the people above? Think how much better his game would have been before entering the NBA.

    So it's kind of silly to point at one being better. What's impressive is how LeBron was able to dominate while being so young, it's kind of foolish to just discount that.
    I don't think he would have got there quicker. He has been option 1, 2, and 3 for his entire career.
  • 2quik4u
    Fly4Fun wrote:
    Skyhook79 wrote:
    JakeGiant wrote: Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

    Thoughts?

    Oh yeah, Go Lakers!

    The whole "youngest" to reach certain levels in points or whatever is pretty stupid to me, with the age to play in the NBA changing several times over the years. It should be by fewest # of games to reach a certain level of points.

    For example:

    Wilt took 492 games to reach 20,000 pts
    Jordan 617 games
    Kareem 683 games
    Bird 797 games
    Karl Malone 754 games
    Iverson 714 games
    Kobe 841 games
    Lebron currently has played 514 games and is at 14236 pts and will probally need another 210 games to reach 20000 pts giving him 714 games.


    The way Kevin Durant is scoring he may end up there pretty high also.
    But they represent two different things...

    Yes, LeBron will be the youngest, but could have have got to those milestones faster game wise if he did spend 3-4 years in college first like some of the people above? Think how much better his game would have been before entering the NBA.

    So it's kind of silly to point at one being better. What's impressive is how LeBron was able to dominate while being so young, it's kind of foolish to just discount that.
    Same could be said for Kobe, a lot people forget that Kobe came off the bench his first two years
  • devil1197
    Yeah Kobe wasn't good enough physically or mentally to have a whole franchise put on his shoulders as an 18 year old.

    He had his shot to carry a franchise but he went the easy route and demanded to be traded to the Lakers on draft night.
  • 2quik4u
    devil1197 wrote: Yeah Kobe wasn't good enough physically or mentally to have a whole franchise put on his shoulders as an 18 year old.

    He had his shot to carry a franchise but he went the easy route and demanded to be traded to the Lakers on draft night.
    Ok so Lebron matured faster then Kobe, good for him