Straight A's....Oakland visits the Tribe.

• BRF

  

  Laley23;1855645 wrote:12 straight outs recorded via a K for the Tribe. That's crazy.

  It's awesome and practically unheard of.
  
  Go Tribe.
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• GOONx19

  

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• HitsRus

  

  Gardens35;1855650 wrote:Been forty days since I don't know when
  I just saw her with my best friend
  Do you know what I mean?

  Her and Rick were steppin out
  Her and Ricky didn't know I found out
  Do you know what I mean?
  Do you know, know what I mean?
  
  
  19 total K's.....There were so many K's and backward K's up on the scoreboard I was getting dizzy trying to count exactly how many.
• cat_lover

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• Crimson streak

  

  Bauer was excellent last night. Also it's safe to say zimmer won't be going anywhere
  
  
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• BR1986FB

  Crimson streak;1855671 wrote:Bauer was excellent last night. Also it's safe to say zimmer won't be going anywhere
  
  
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  Unless Zimmer totally craps in his hat, he's here to stay. I think they already started his clock so they might as well keep him up.
  
  Solid outing by Bauer, after a shaky start, but I still don't trust the guy.
• Sonofanump

  BR1986FB;1855677 wrote:Solid outing by Bauer, after a shaky start, but I still don't trust the guy.

  Hopefully the Tribe rotation is healthy and Salazar figures out how to keep the ball down in the zone so Bauer is not in the 3/4 man rotation come October.
• BR1986FB

  Sonofanump;1855680 wrote:Hopefully the Tribe rotation is healthy and Salazar figures out how to keep the ball down in the zone so Bauer is not in the 3/4 man rotation come October.

  Assuming they make it to the playoffs, I think their three frontline starters will be Kluber-Carrasco-pitcher acquired via trade at the deadline. I really think they will make a move to add another quality starter and there should be a ton of them to choose from.
• vball10set

  Laley23;1855619 wrote:Ok, I'll be the first one. Gardens, you're annoying the shit out of me lol.

  REPS!!!
• vball10set

  BR1986FB;1855677 wrote:
  Solid outing by Bauer, after a shaky start, but I still don't trust the guy.

  this
• HitsRus

  

  Sonofanump;1855680 wrote:Hopefully the Tribe rotation is healthy and Salazar figures out how to keep the ball down in the zone so Bauer is not in the 3/4 man rotation come October.

  Bauer is a front end of the rotation pitcher in the making. He has #1/#2 type stuff as was evidenced last night. What's been missing is the consistency of performance that a guy like Kluber or Carrasco brings to the mound. Before you bail on him, check out the history of Kluber and Carrasco and how long it took for them to develop the consistency and the mental toughness it takes to deliver it. If Bauer delivers last night's kind of performance on a regular basis, by the end of the season, somebody else will be worried about being "#3".
  
  I am much more worried about Salazar, who is further along in the process and just doesn't seem to get it at all. He's the guy that should be delivering solid performances outing after outing.
• BR1986FB

  HitsRus;1855749 wrote:Bauer is a front end of the rotation pitcher in the making. He has #1/#2 type stuff as was evidenced last night. What's been missing is the consistency of performance that a guy like Kluber or Carrasco brings to the mound. Before you bail on him, check out the history of Kluber and Carrasco and how long it took for them to develop the consistency and the mental toughness it takes to deliver it. If Bauer delivers last night's kind of performance on a regular basis, by the end of the season, somebody else will be worried about being "#3".
  
  I am much more worried about Salazar, who is further along in the process and just doesn't seem to get it at all. He's the guy that should be delivering solid performances outing after outing.

  There's no question that Bauer has the stuff & the physical makeup to be a #1/#2 guy. It's what's between the ears that's the problem. I don't think Kluber or Carrasco were ever known to be head cases.
• vball10set

  HitsRus;1855749 wrote:If Bauer delivers last night's kind of performance on a regular basis, by the end of the season, somebody else will be worried about being "#3".

  "if my aunt had a ****..."
  

  BR1986FB;1855750 wrote:There's no question that Bauer has the stuff & the physical makeup to be a #1/#2 guy. It's what's between the ears that's the problem. I don't think Kluber or Carrasco were ever known to be head cases.

  bingo!
• Laley23

  

  BR1986FB;1855750 wrote:There's no question that Bauer has the stuff & the physical makeup to be a #1/#2 guy. It's what's between the ears that's the problem. I don't think Kluber or Carrasco were ever known to be head cases.

  vball10set;1855751 wrote:"if my aunt had a ****..."
  
  
  
  bingo!

  Guys, Carrasco was a lost cause. We had to send him to the Pen for an extended period of time and Mickey had to completely retool him because he wouldn't adjust and didn't have it mentally. It is literally the exact same. Like, do we not remember 2011, 2012 (when he wasn't even with the damn team!), 2013 or 2014??? Carrasco didn't learn how to pitch and control his emotions as a starter until he was 28 (2015).
  
  Kluber just wasn't good enough and spent forever in the minors. When he finally did get the call up in 2012 as a 26 year old, he wasn't great. Inconsistent at best. First full year was as a 27 year old, he had his first really good year (still had 8, 6, 7, 6 runs given up games).
  
  Trevor Bauer is STILL just 26. He has never had an ERA over 4.5 and has increased his innings pitched every season. This year should hit 200. He is at a career high in K/9 (by a longshot) and career low in BB/9. His FIP is a career low and WHIP is career high, indicating a decent amount of bad luck so far. He has a WAR of .4, despite an awful ERA thus far, again indicating he has pitched much better than his numbers.
  
  There is a reason that Bauer was never seriously considered by Tito to go out of the rotation, instead they contemplated sending Clevinger back down before deciding on Danny going to the Pen.
• Fab4Runner

  

  Laley23;1855755 wrote:Guys, Carrasco was a lost cause. We had to send him to the Pen for an extended period of time and Mickey had to completely retool him because he wouldn't adjust and didn't have it mentally. It is literally the exact same. Like, do we not remember 2011, 2012 (when he wasn't even with the damn team!), 2013 or 2014??? Carrasco didn't learn how to pitch and control his emotions as a starter until he was 28 (2015).
  
  Kluber just wasn't good enough and spent forever in the minors. When he finally did get the call up in 2012 as a 26 year old, he wasn't great. Inconsistent at best. First full year was as a 27 year old, he had his first really good year (still had 8, 6, 7, 6 runs given up games).
  
  Trevor Bauer is STILL just 26. He has never had an ERA over 4.5 and has increased his innings pitched every season. This year should hit 200. He is at a career high in K/9 (by a longshot) and career low in BB/9. His FIP is a career low and WHIP is career high, indicating a decent amount of bad luck so far. He has a WAR of .4, despite an awful ERA thus far, again indicating he has pitched much better than his numbers.
  
  There is a reason that Bauer was never seriously considered by Tito to go out of the rotation, instead they contemplated sending Clevinger back down before deciding on Danny going to the Pen.

  
  
• Crimson streak

  

  Laley23;1855755 wrote:Guys, Carrasco was a lost cause. We had to send him to the Pen for an extended period of time and Mickey had to completely retool him because he wouldn't adjust and didn't have it mentally. It is literally the exact same. Like, do we not remember 2011, 2012 (when he wasn't even with the damn team!), 2013 or 2014??? Carrasco didn't learn how to pitch and control his emotions as a starter until he was 28 (2015).
  
  Kluber just wasn't good enough and spent forever in the minors. When he finally did get the call up in 2012 as a 26 year old, he wasn't great. Inconsistent at best. First full year was as a 27 year old, he had his first really good year (still had 8, 6, 7, 6 runs given up games).
  
  Trevor Bauer is STILL just 26. He has never had an ERA over 4.5 and has increased his innings pitched every season. This year should hit 200. He is at a career high in K/9 (by a longshot) and career low in BB/9. His FIP is a career low and WHIP is career high, indicating a decent amount of bad luck so far. He has a WAR of .4, despite an awful ERA thus far, again indicating he has pitched much better than his numbers.
  
  There is a reason that Bauer was never seriously considered by Tito to go out of the rotation, instead they contemplated sending Clevinger back down before deciding on Danny going to the Pen.

  Exactly. He really reminds me a lot of Carlos. Took him a long time to finally figure it out
  
  
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• vball10set

  #9 hitter Chad fucking Pinder...twice...wtf, Clevinger
• Laley23

  

  vball10set;1855837 wrote:#9 hitter Chad fucking Pinder...twice...wtf, Clevinger

  Dude is on fire. Probably won't hit 5 more all season once he cools off lol.
  

  Chad Pinder has 2 homers (869 feet total) off Mike Clevinger tonight. Five of his last 7 hits have been HR. Has .889 SLG last 9 games.

• vball10set

  Laley23;1855840 wrote:Dude is on fire. Probably won't hit 5 more all season once he cools off lol.

  The kid's definitely seeing the ball really well--the real story tonight though is Manaea--practically unhittable.
• vball10set

  Kip in one of his mini-slumps again...hope it's truly mini
• BR1986FB

  vball10set;1855837 wrote:#9 hitter Chad fucking Pinder...twice...wtf, Clevinger

  Clevinger was solid. He hung two bad breaking pitches that cost him the game.
• vball10set

  BR1986FB;1855869 wrote:Clevinger was solid. He hung two bad breaking pitches that cost him the game.

  I like Clevinger, but that doesn't mean I'll cut him any slack when he hangs two terrible breaking balls, to the #9 hitter, both times while ahead in the count.
• BR1986FB

  vball10set;1855873 wrote:I like Clevinger, but that doesn't mean I'll cut him any slack when he hangs two terrible breaking balls, to the #9 hitter, both times while ahead in the count.

  I get it and don't disagree. He shouldn't be getting clubbed by the #9 hitter. Otherwise, he pitched well but that's not worth much when you lose in the end.
• vball10set

  BR1986FB;1855876 wrote:Otherwise, he pitched well but that's not worth much when you lose in the end.

  yes he did, and it was good to see...now, we need to start another streak today...