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  • Laley23
    Also pissed at Howard. Take a ste backwards instead of whatever jump attempt that was in goal #1 and you catch it. Goal 2...dude was in quicksand. A step to his right and it's an easy save. But he never reacted and jumped from a standstill almost when ball is 80% of the way there.
  • Automatik
    Just as laughable as his "hot shot" Euro team comment the other day. He's delusional.

    If you can't get your team up for playing Trinidad & Tobago with a fucking WORLD CUP BIRTH on the line you gotta go. There's no dancing around it...get rid of him.
  • like_that
    Heretic;1876757 wrote:Lol, just lol. Losing to T&T is the most comically inept way to get eliminated from being considered a serious team worth appearing in big tournaments.
    A T&T team that was eliminated a long time ago. They literally had nothing to play for.
    Laley23;1876758 wrote:Also pissed at Howard. Take a ste backwards instead of whatever jump attempt that was in goal #1 and you catch it. Goal 2...dude was in quicksand. A step to his right and it's an easy save. But he never reacted and jumped from a standstill almost when ball is 80% of the way there.
    Howard definetely is nowhere near the form he was 4 years ago. When I was at the Costa Rica game, it looked like he put on weight and was out of shape.
    Automatik;1876759 wrote:Just as laughable as his "hot shot" Euro team comment the other day. He's delusional.

    If you can't get your team up for playing Trinidad & Tobago with a fucking WORLD CUP BIRTH on the line you gotta go. There's no dancing around it...get rid of him.
    LOL, the collapse made me completely forget about that comment. This is a no brainer decision; blow everything up.
  • Automatik
    Also LOL at Michael Bradley and his lion comment after getting ripped by Lalas. Time for him to fuck off too.

    Yeah, I know the US would never do that much in the WC, but I still love watching and rooting for the impossible. I'll still watch a ton of it, just really sucks that we're out. I thought we made moves in the right direction after a decent showing in the WC. Wrong, we're now at the lowest point ever.
  • OSH
    Laley23;1876758 wrote:Also pissed at Howard. Take a ste backwards instead of whatever jump attempt that was in goal #1 and you catch it. Goal 2...dude was in quicksand. A step to his right and it's an easy save. But he never reacted and jumped from a standstill almost when ball is 80% of the way there.
    Been calling for a change for years. He's a dinosaur. We need to rid the USMNT of the "Old Guard." That includes Guzan, Rimando, etc. Only JK has brought in "New Blood" and young guys. Arena 1.0, Brad Bobbley, and Arena 2.0 played their safety nets in the "Old Guard" and never advanced the game.
    Automatik;1876786 wrote:I thought we made moves in the right direction after a decent showing in the WC.
    Really?! What moves were made?

    There have been two "moves" made in the last 27 years (7 World Cups). We started MLS (1994) and we started the DA (2007). That's basically not doing anything for the entire US soccer system. We did hire JK, but he was stifled in doing anything because it impeded MLS. Who would want to manage the US Soccer mess? There's not much positive going on with the entire system.
  • Automatik
    Getting out of the group and hanging with Belgium was a move forward in my eyes....along with adding more Euro based players.

    Now it's a total clusterfuck.
  • OSH
    Automatik;1876791 wrote:Getting out of the group and hanging with Belgium was a move forward in my eyes....along with adding more Euro based players.
    Getting out of the group is something that should happen. Every qualifying round, the "goal" is to "qualify." That's a low goal for the USMNT. No one that is a legitimate world power in soccer hopes to advance out of group or hopes to qualify.

    The leadership has not progressed our soccer system, at all. Project 2010 was a 12-year mission that absolutely failed. Basically, the same leadership is still involved and not done a thing.
  • Automatik
    Well we're not a "legitimate world power" anyway, not even close.

    I have no idea how to fix it moving forward, but I would start with canning everyone at the top and taking a good hard look at the youth system...again.

    Our entire system sucks and needs revamped, but I'm actually more pissed off at the sheer lack of effort and preparation by the players. Arena is at fault, but goddamn...they weren't even trying. I can't get over it.
  • OSH
    Gulati is supposed to have a presser on Friday morning.
  • OSH
    First change, no surprise: Arena resigns.

    Second change: Tab Ramos named interim coach. Full 8-month search, next full-time coach named after Russia.

    EDIT: Tab not named interim coach (officially or yet). That was a reported rumor. As of right now, Tab has been filling role as Technical Director unofficially.
  • Classyposter58
    Too many guys have comfy spots on MLS teams anymore, that's the big problem. I don't think they're careers are being pushed in the way Howard's was, or Pulisic's is currently and that is killing this teams development. Glad things are going to get tough now, but American soccer has to continue being critical of its teams, not this laid back I hope we do well crap. That's what moms say about their high school sons in sports
  • Crimson streak
    Classyposter58;1877253 wrote:Too many guys have comfy spots on MLS teams anymore, that's the big problem. I don't think they're careers are being pushed in the way Howard's was, or Pulisic's is currently and that is killing this teams development. Glad things are going to get tough now, but American soccer has to continue being critical of its teams, not this laid back I hope we do well crap. That's what moms say about their high school sons in sports
    This might be the first time I've actually agreed with something classy has said... I'm going to go shoot myself now [emoji23][emoji23]


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  • OSH
    Here's some food for thought, Sunil was elected in 2006. At the time of his election the US ended up getting ranked #5 in FIFA World Rankings. Newest rankings came out today with US at 27.

    Other notables, ranking in 2006 and 2017:
    Poland -- 29 and 6
    Chile -- 64 and 9
    Peru -- 66 and 10
    Switzerland -- 35 and 11
    Wales -- 74 and 14
    Iceland -- 99 and 11
    Northern Ireland -- 96 and 14
    Slovakia -- 41 and 14

    And, remarkably...Tunisia -- 21 and 28, was ranked 16 spots below US is now one spot below. Tunisia has never advanced from the group stage of a World Cup, record of 1-7-4 (W-L-D, only win was debut match in 1978), only been to 4 WCs, and have not qualified since 2006. Tunisia has dropped 7 spots in this span while US has dropped 22.
  • like_that
    How the US can be ranked 27 after not getting out of CONCACAF is beyond me. Same with Chile. Inexcusable for them not to make the WC. They don't deserve a top 10 ranking. FIFA rankings are a joke.
  • OSH
    like_that;1877582 wrote:How the US can be ranked 27 after not getting out of CONCACAF is beyond me. Same with Chile. Inexcusable for them not to make the WC. They don't deserve a top 10 ranking. FIFA rankings are a joke.
    Yeah, I really don't understand those placements. US actually moved up too. I will say it's rather "unfair" that CONMEBOL gets 4.5 qualifying spots (CONCACAF gets 3.5!). CONMEBOL is absolutely loaded. And Chile gets knocked out based on goal differential. The Paraguay match was crucial, Peru beat Paraguay and Chile drew them. Shows how tight and important every match is in CONMEBOL. Meanwhile, Arena had 8 games to get qualified and STILL complains about "a hole after 2 games." Argentina had a HUGE hole to dig out of, and managed to finish 3rd! They were in elimination zone entering last match and jumped 3 spots.

    On another down note...Crew are rumored to be relocating to Austin, Texas. Billionaire owner holding city hostage for a new toy (stadium). Extremely disappointing. This is two low blows in the worst week of soccer for me.
  • thavoice
    The crew holding Columbus hostage for a new stadium.

    Bold move Cotton. Let me know how that works out.

    The stadium could be used as a football stadium for smaller local colleges and HS state games.
  • Mulva
    Sweden is getting boned by this ref.
  • Automatik
    Swedes in, Italians OUT.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Interesting WC field, no USA no Italy. No USA means I doubt I'll watch, but without Italy I'm slightly more interested. I'd wager this will be the last time in our lived neither make the WC. Too much $$$ being lost by not having US and Italy.
  • Laley23
    Commander of Awesome;1881583 wrote:Interesting WC field, no USA no Italy. No USA means I doubt I'll watch, but without Italy I'm slightly more interested. I'd wager this will be the last time in our lived neither make the WC. Too much $$$ being lost by not having US and Italy.
    Well, certainly not if they stay at 48 teams.

    USA
    Italy
    Netherlands
    Chile
    Ghana

    Crazy some of these countries are missing out.
  • Mulva
    World Cup draw about to happen. Depressing, but still interested.