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Ironman92

I'm sure they'll be replaced by those that are similar but at least we won't have to see those 3 and kids in the OF seats will be safer.

thavoice

Lamb was traded to the rays for cash (fiddy bucks maybe?). He just had back surgery as well.

An "insider"/ scout (for a diff franchise) I know says that the Votto to Toronto thing is still out there, but he has a no trade clause and the reds would likely have to eat some of it. Unlikely, but it isnt totally off the table, and the Yankees were interesting in Descalfini for a couple of mid level prospects.

Need to move Phillips. Bailey needs to come back strong. Descalfini.....set a reds record last year for most starts giving up 3 hits or less....impressive.
Played over .500 ball in the second half.

Not as far away as it seemed in the first half.

Signed some hotshot from the mexican league I think....16 yr old pitcher.

Need Meseraco to come back strong, same with bailey. Hamilton needs to take that next step. He started to turn it around in working with Votto.

Ironman92

Meso I worry will never return to that middle of the order starting catcher.

Middle level prospects for Disco and Yankees can suck it.

Hoping Homer works his way toward an ace pitcher but will always feel he's head weak and benefitted greatly from working with Ryan Hanigan.

Everyone has jumped on the wins aren't important yet all the best pitchers pile them up.

thavoice

Ironman92;1822025 wrote:Meso I worry will never return to that middle of the order starting catcher.

Middle level prospects for Disco and Yankees can suck it.

Hoping Homer works his way toward an ace pitcher but will always feel he's head weak and benefitted greatly from working with Ryan Hanigan.

Everyone has jumped on the wins aren't important yet all the best pitchers pile them up.

Meso likely will need to switch positions to stay healthy. At least with the low expections they can almost only go up from there.,

ernest_t_bass

I hope to never see DatDude in another MLB uniform.

Ironman92

ernest_t_bass;1822045 wrote:I hope to never see DatDude in another MLB uniform.

His range and even regular plays have went downhill fast.

He still has the ability to go oppo and hit around .280 but he has to hit .275 to have a .300 OB%

He walked 18 times last year.....EIGHTEEN

To me either Phillips or Cozart HAS to go. Peraza should get as many AB next year as Phillips got this year.

If Peraza doesn't start at SS or 2nd I will probably explode about 10 games in.

Azubuike24

Hopefully Phillips goes. They have guys who need PT.

As for the pen, I LOL'ed at those comments. Like Simon, Ohlendorf and Hoover were anything but putrid?

thavoice

Hamilton apparently on the trade block as well

Ironman92

thavoice;1827054 wrote:Hamilton apparently on the trade block as well

Yeah, move Peraza to CF so Phillips can get his 600 fucking plate appearances

Ironman92

Phillips blocked a trade to Braves

thavoice

Ironman92;1831490 wrote:Phillips blocked a trade to Braves

Yeah, I just read that. If I were him, I can see the reasoning but when he blocked the one to the Natinals I was baffled.

thavoice

FOUR REDS PLAYERS AVOID ARBITRATION. - The Cincinnati Reds agreed to one year deals with four players, avoiding arbitration hearings. BILLY HAMILTON ($2.65M), ZACK COZART ($5.35M), BLAKE WOOD ($1.275M) & TONY CINGRANI ($1.825M). This is the first year eligible for Hamilton & Cingrani, second year for Wood and third (& last) for Cozart, the latter will be eligible for free agency next winter.

mhs95_06

Reds buy Straily low last year and sell him high now. Hopefully Reds talent evaluators are astute on who they are getting. According to ESPN:

Miami dealt right-handed pitching prospects Luis Castillo, Austin Brice and minor league outfielder Isaiah White for Straily. The deal is pending physicals.

Castillo, 24, pitched at Single-A and Double-A last season, going 8-6 with a 2.26 ERA and 103 strikeouts in 131 2/3 innings.
Brice, also 24, threw in Double-A and Triple-A. He was 4-7 with a 2.74 ERA in 32 minor league games, including 13 starts. He appeared in 15 games for the Marlins last season where he had a 7.07 ERA in 14 big league innings.
White, 20, was taken in the third round of the 2015 draft by Miami. He played at short-season Single A last season, hitting .214 with one homer and 17 RBIs in 51 games.

thavoice

mhs95_06;1833462 wrote:Reds buy Straily low last year and sell him high now. Hopefully Reds talent evaluators are astute on who they are getting. According to ESPN:

Miami dealt right-handed pitching prospects Luis Castillo, Austin Brice and minor league outfielder Isaiah White for Straily. The deal is pending physicals.

Castillo, 24, pitched at Single-A and Double-A last season, going 8-6 with a 2.26 ERA and 103 strikeouts in 131 2/3 innings.
Brice, also 24, threw in Double-A and Triple-A. He was 4-7 with a 2.74 ERA in 32 minor league games, including 13 starts. He appeared in 15 games for the Marlins last season where he had a 7.07 ERA in 14 big league innings.
White, 20, was taken in the third round of the 2015 draft by Miami. He played at short-season Single A last season, hitting .214 with one homer and 17 RBIs in 51 games.

Was a bit surprised with straily getting traded. I wonder if it was one of those instances when they felt he totally overachieved and they dont expect him to reach that mark again and wanted to trade him as his peak.

In the reds storied franchise he set an impressive record. He set the franchise record in starts in which he gave up 3 or fewer hits. Think about that. That is tremendous, and he didnt even start the season in the rotation.

Azubuike24

Great trade honestly. Castillo is a really good get for a scrub like Straily.

thavoice

Azubuike24;1833473 wrote:Great trade honestly. Castillo is a really good get for a scrub like Straily.

I agree. I think this is one of the times the reds came out in front in a trade. Not bad return for a guy who I think was a waiver wire pickup last year. He pitched well enough to get reds 3 players that hopefully contribute.

As much shit as we give the front office, I think this time we give them kudos.

and watch, Straily will become an absolute star now.....

Ironman92

Azubuike24;1833473 wrote:Great trade honestly. Castillo is a really good get for a scrub like Straily.

It's a great move by the GM...we'll see how it works out. I do approve though.

Heretic

Stop me if you've heard this one before. You know, 2016, 2015, most years he's played.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/02/homer-bailey-undergoes-surgery-to-remove-bone-spurs-from-elbow.html

Ironman92

He needs shot.

Ironman92

"He mirrors Max Scherzer"!!!!!!! Give him Scherzer money....there are no other factors to pitching beyond stuff!

Ironman92

Phillips

He gone. Reds will pay most of his salary to the Braves

Heretic

Ironman92;1836763 wrote:Phillips

He gone. Reds will pay most of his salary to the Braves

Didn't seem to get much of anything for him, either. A guy coming off Tommy John who'd been outrighted and was poor during his one year in MLB and a 29-year-old Cuban with blah peripherals in the minors last year. While paying most of his salary. Was this trade solely made to make Azu happy?

Ironman92

Heretic;1836772 wrote:Didn't seem to get much of anything for him, either. A guy coming off Tommy John who'd been outrighted and was poor during his one year in MLB and a 29-year-old Cuban with blah peripherals in the minors last year. While paying most of his salary. Was this trade solely made to make Azu happy?

I'm glad he's gone but it's moo because the Reds decision makers can't consistently make good decisions.

thavoice

Gee, he could have been playing for the Natinals and contending...

ha h a hah aha haha ha ha ha ha ha

justincredible

Glad to see the Reds move Phillips. Not because I don't like Phillips, but he's not the part of the future so he'd just be taking playing time away from those that are/could be. I'm looking forward to his induction in the Reds Hall of Fame.

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