Tribe @ Twinkies

• BRF

  

  And he did.
• Laley23

  

  Someone needs to write a book on the phenomenon of bullpen pitchers just losing it.
• HitsRus

  

  
• vball10set

  Laley23;1793493 wrote:Someone needs to write a book on the phenomenon of the Indians' bullpen pitchers just losing it.

  fify
• Laley23

  

  vball10set;1793506 wrote:fify

  Its not just the tribe. Relievers all over MLB just lose it after years of dominance
• vball10set

  Laley23;1793511 wrote:Its not just the tribe. Relievers all over MLB just lose it after years of dominance

  I get what you're saying, but I only care about the Indians' woes--and Allen's in particular.
• vball10set

  Laley23;1793476 wrote:I blame Heretic, who came to Cody Andersons defense before the season when I said he was terrible. Lol

  smartest thing you've said in a while...btw, saw Roni Pinciotti over the weekend--she said to say hello
• Heretic

  

  Laley23;1793493 wrote:Someone needs to write a book on the phenomenon of bullpen pitchers just losing it.

  This has been a bad year for formerly solid relievers. For you, both Shaw and Allen have been terrible; for the Reds, their entire pen has been a big joke and for the Pirates, Watson has been more vulnerable and Melancon tried to give away Sunday's game but Arizona's bullpen was just as bad down the stretch.
• BRF

  

  Overpaid pitchers who aren't good enough to be starters.
• iclfan2

  

  Cody Anderson sent to minors. Will pitch with a 4-man rotation for next 10 days due to off days. Then they will need to make a move. Clevinger?
  
  
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• Crimson streak

  

  iclfan2;1793633 wrote:Cody Anderson sent to minors. Will pitch with a 4-man rotation for next 10 days due to off days. Then they will need to make a move. Clevinger?
  
  
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  1 can only hope bc Anderson blows
• HitsRus

  

  Kyle Crockett recalled... Will take Anderson's roster spot .
• vball10set

  I said it before and I'll say it again...Tomlin is NOT a starter. Period.
• BRF

  

  Big rally going on in the 5th!
• HitsRus

  

  After a rocky first inning, Tomlin has settled down nicely ... Tribe leads 6-3 in the 5th.
• Laley23

  

  vball10set;1793666 wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again...Tomlin is NOT a starter. Period.

  I respectfully disagree.
• Crimson streak

  

  Laley23;1793697 wrote:I respectfully disagree.

  I'm with you on that. Tomlin is a great 5th starter
• vball10set

  Laley23;1793697 wrote:I respectfully disagree.

  your prerogative...and no response to my Pinciotti 'hello'?
  

  Crimson streak;1793707 wrote:I'm with you on that. Tomlin is a great 5th starter

  great??? lol
• Crimson streak

  

  vball10set;1793710 wrote:your prerogative...and no response to my Pinciotti 'hello'?
  
  
  
  great??? lol

  As a 5th starter he is one of the better ones in the league. He might not have the best stuff but he keeps you in games which is what you want with your 5th starter. He will have an era around 4 which is excellent as a 5th starter
• Laley23

  

  vball10set;1793710 wrote:no response to my Pinciotti 'hello'?
  l

  You can tell her hello from me, but I worked there for 4 years and probably saw her like 40 times total. She probably knew me by the end, but I had many interactions where I was called 1 of 4 names, none of which were mine lol. I wasnt an office person. I went to my event, directed it, and went home. Only times I really saw here were when I had to go to office for something, or a random Directors Meeting she would pop in for.
• Laley23

  

  Crimson streak;1793730 wrote:As a 5th starter he is one of the better ones in the league. He might not have the best stuff but he keeps you in games which is what you want with your 5th starter. He will have an era around 4 which is excellent as a 5th starter

  This, and I think he end up with an ERA under 4 (not saying you arent saying that).
• vball10set

  Crimson streak;1793730 wrote:As a 5th starter he is one of the better ones in the league. He might not have the best stuff but he keeps you in games which is what you want with your 5th starter. He will have an era around 4 which is excellent as a 5th starter

  like your optimism, and hope you're right...not holding my breath though
• Laley23

  

  vball10set;1794018 wrote:like your optimism, and hope you're right...not holding my breath though

  Since his return from injury last star (about half a season), he is:
  
  10-2
  3.05 ERA (estimate, 3.03 last year 3.18 this year)
  68 Ks
  10 BBs
  Whip under 1.00
  
  Now the advanced stats say he is a little lucky, but still good and effective. If he can do this till the ASG, that's a seasons with of starts, and I'd be comfortable saying that is pretty close to who he is.