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Beckham and Wallace....what would you do?

  • Ironman92
    Playing the role of Goodell....

    I don't have great video of either but surely you have seen Beckam's antics of 3 personal fouls, including one where he circled back 15 yards to drill Norman in the ear hole way after the play http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25421657/report-odell-beckham-could-get-1-game-suspension-for-norman-incidents

    And Cody Wallace did one of those OL guys flying into the pile late but was beyond violent and even hit the innocent bystander. https://mobile.twitter.com/TheCauldron/status/678698783723511808

    My videos are both fails but couldn't find ones showing the full play. Feel free to give better ones.

    For Beckham....he should've been tossed for the hit and after review of his game I'd give him a 2 game suspension and a $200,000 fine.

    For Wallace....history of dirty. He should've been tossed for the hit and with his history of being dirty. 4 games and $250,000 fine.

    Both cases the refs should be allowed to review, watch quick video and eject both players.
  • iclfan2
    Haven't seen the Wallace hit. Beckham needs suspended at least a game an heavily fined.

    Disagree with replay. It is ruining the college game with the 90% of the time wrong targeting penalties. Unless they see it live, let the league sort it out afterwards.


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  • Ironman92
    iclfan2;1770683 wrote:Haven't seen the Wallace hit. Beckham needs suspended at least a game an heavily fined.

    Disagree with replay. It is ruining the college game with the 90% of the time wrong targeting penalties. Unless they see it live, let the league sort it out afterwards.


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    I don't like some of the ejections in college due to it....but these two were extreme cases and neither clown deserved to be playing the rest of the game....both way after the play. Maybe a ref sees the dirty play.....thought he saw it bad enough to be ejected, then can watch a replay to confirm. I don't necessarily mean head to head.

    Both of these were glaringly obvious in full speed at the time it happened.
  • Commander of Awesome
    iclfan2;1770683 wrote:Haven't seen the Wallace hit. Beckham needs suspended at least a game an heavily fined.

    Disagree with replay. It is ruining the college game with the 90% of the time wrong targeting penalties. Unless they see it live, let the league sort it out afterwards.


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    Well Roger already set a precedence with Pacman jones that you get suspended for being a POFS on the field. Thus he can't do anything. However, he's anything but fair or transparent, so I expect OBJ to be suspended.
  • Automatik
    I think they both get a game.

    I'm not for reviewing either....already enough stoppages during a game.
  • queencitybuckeye
    One or more of the Carolina-NYG officials should be suspended.
  • Al Bundy
    Ironman92;1770674 wrote:Playing the role of Goodell....

    I don't have great video of either but surely you have seen Beckam's antics of 3 personal fouls, including one where he circled back 15 yards to drill Norman in the ear hole way after the play http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25421657/report-odell-beckham-could-get-1-game-suspension-for-norman-incidents

    And Cody Wallace did one of those OL guys flying into the pile late but was beyond violent and even hit the innocent bystander. https://mobile.twitter.com/TheCauldron/status/678698783723511808

    My videos are both fails but couldn't find ones showing the full play. Feel free to give better ones.

    For Beckham....he should've been tossed for the hit and after review of his game I'd give him a 2 game suspension and a $200,000 fine.

    For Wallace....history of dirty. He should've been tossed for the hit and with his history of being dirty. 4 games and $250,000 fine.

    Both cases the refs should be allowed to review, watch quick video and eject both players.
    Nice to see the double-standard of Steelers fans. When Ward used to do they were "great hits"
  • Automatik
    Crackback blocks were legal back then, they no longer are.

    This thread is about the BS after the play.
  • Laley23
    Automatik;1770710 wrote:Crackback blocks were legal back then, they no longer are.

    This thread is about the BS after the play.
    They were always dirty, IMO. If a guy isn't looking, just block him, don't kill him.
  • Rotinaj
    I think Beckham deserves a 1 game suspension as long as that game ISNT the next one.....
  • Automatik
    Laley23;1770730 wrote:They were always dirty, IMO. If a guy isn't looking, just block him, don't kill him.
    Agreed, but it's been going on since the beginning of football. I would see it a ton at the high school level. I'm assuming they've cleaned that up by now, but I haven't watched a HS game in years.
  • Ironman92
    Al Bundy;1770703 wrote:Nice to see the double-standard of Steelers fans. When Ward used to do they were "great hits"
    Ok thanks.

    Moving forward
  • Ironman92
    Laley23;1770730 wrote:They were always dirty, IMO. If a guy isn't looking, just block him, don't kill him.
    This....often during the game a player has no chance at any part of the play, don't kill him
  • Spock
    the refs are just as much at fault here for not controlling the players since they were out of control the whole game
  • Ironman92
    Spock;1770907 wrote:the refs are just as much at fault here for not controlling the players since they were out of control the whole game
    Both games
  • Ironman92
    Spock;1770907 wrote:the refs are just as much at fault here for not controlling the players since they were out of control the whole game
    Can't give the refs the amount of fault I give Beckham and Wallace....probably 50 other players on the field in each of those games and with those same refs but none of those other players tried to kill anyone
  • BR1986FB
    Not that I'm defending Beckham, as they were cheap shots, but apparently there were allegations of Panthers players threatening him with a baseball bat prior to the game? Not sure If I'd classify this as threatening but a video has surfaced of a player in street clothes approaching Beckham with what looks like a bat in pregame warm ups. I think I'd be pissed too....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBoJXw6f-Zo
  • Automatik
    It's all over the place. Supposedly Carolina comes out every pregame with the bats. It's stupid.

    I guess they were also "questioning his manhood" and making anti-gay remarks.
  • BR1986FB
    Ahhh, wasn't aware the baseball bats were standard for Carolina. They apparently have their sports confused.
  • Ironman92
    Great now I'd guess you'll see Brandon Phillips and Joey Votto in shoulder pads before their games now.
  • BR1986FB
    Ironman92;1771006 wrote:Great now I'd guess you'll see Brandon Phillips and Joey Votto in shoulder pads before their games now.
    And Lebron James wearing a hockey mask.
  • iclfan2
    None of that excuses Beckham being a piece of shit. You think he's the first player someone called a homo? Get outta here.

    The bat thing is stupid, but once again doesn't excuse his behavior whatsoever.


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  • SportsAndLady
    iclfan2;1771027 wrote:None of that excuses Beckham being a piece of shit. You think he's the first player someone called a homo? Get outta here.

    The bat thing is stupid, but once again doesn't excuse his behavior whatsoever.


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    Agreed. All that says to me is beckham can't take the heat and just opened himself up to every corner in the league giving him shit.
  • Heretic
    SportsAndLady;1771033 wrote:Agreed. All that says to me is beckham can't take the heat and just opened himself up to every corner in the league giving him shit.
    And, honestly, until someone shows audio footage of people saying that, there's a big part of me that will think his camp is making shit up to try to save face. Odell's known for making great catches, his hair and seemingly being a fun guy (at least I hadn't heard anything negative about him or his demeanor). Then this happens. And then, afterwards, Carolina was using their bats (supposedly as some weird sort of tribute to a inactive teammate or whatever) to threaten him and guys were making homophobic slurs.

    Maybe that stuff happened or maybe it's a attempt at deflecting some criticism from him and onto the Panthers for "instigating" stuff. Considering he's a young guy with a real bright future with the potential to make $$$ in endorsements for a long time, the conspiracy theorist in me has no trouble looking at these allegations as damage control.