Reds at Mets, game 1

• thavoice

  Azubuike24;1738303 wrote:That was my point in other threads.
  
  You need young prospects to fill bench spots, and transition into starters. Remember how Votto, Bruce, Mesoraco, Frazier and Hamilton came up? This organization is completely void of that. There's maybe 1 or 2 guys in the entire organization who is a good prospect and could even compete for a 25-man roster spot right now. It's a problem.
  
  Also, you don't piss money away on Boesch (1.25M), Marquis (3M), Gregg (1M), Schumaker (2.5M), Parra (3.5M), all guys who suck...and many before them. You could get the same production (and we've seen that with DeJesus, Negron, Barnhart, etc..) with minimum salary guys.
  
  I mean go back and look at a typical Rays, Athletics or Royals bench. Why can't the Reds do that? It would make a 115M payroll stretch a lot further.
  
  I mean you can go back the last 3 years and literally find 25-30M worth of contracts for guys who performed well below league average at their positions and a few who were flat out DFA'ed and the team ate their contracts. Who is accountable for that? Instead, we get fed the BS that "they can't afford Cueto" yet are leaking funds in 8 other places.

  
  Fair enough.
  I would venture to say though that most teams have quite of bit of dead weight with salaries. Just the nature of the beast. They may be void of the talent you speak of, but the young pitching they have brough up, starters, have been pretty damned solid.
  
  What do you ultimately think that Cueto will get per year? 25?
• Azubuike24

  

  You would think his starting figure would be somewhere like 8yr/200M. I think the 8+ year deals have kind of soured, so he may have to settle for 5-6 years and maybe get 25-28M a year on that, especially with his injury problems pre-2013.
  
  As for the "nature of the beast", that's the nature of the beast for teams who have extra money. I guess it's similar to people in general. The more extra income you have, the more likely you are to let dollars here and there slide. However, it also makes you wonder just how dangerous a team who runs things with the principles of a Tampa or Oakland, but does so with the availability of tons of spending room.
  
  The Cubs are the closest to it right now...and they look awfully freaking dangerous over the next decade. You only hope they start bleeding cash because they have it saved up. The Dodgers were in the same boat 3 or 4 years ago, and while they had a ton of good prospects, they have also done their fair share of terrible spending and have had to eat some big money.
• thavoice

  Reds win 2-1 behind Cuetos good game.
  
  Suarez for fucks sake had another error!