Pete Carroll you are dumb

• Footwedge

  Midstate01;1702108 wrote:They had timeouts, so they had that option no matter what..

  As I posted up above, they only had one time out left. If they run the ball and not gotten in, then they would have had to call their last time out...probably with 13 seconds left. Now, they would have to throw it on third down.
  
  Throwing the ball on second down was actually the right thing to do. Throwing a pick was the wrong thing to do.
• Al Bundy

  Footwedge;1702100 wrote:He wouldn't get 3 tries. 18 seconds left with only one time out. Do the math. If Lynch runs the ball on second down and doesn't get in, then Seattle is forced to call their last time out and then has to throw it on both third and fourth down.
  
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  They could have or passed on 4th down because the clock would no longer matter. With that said, you give the ball to a back of that quality on second down.
• queencitybuckeye

  IggyPride00;1702080 wrote:If I was Lynch I would demand a trade this off-season.
  

  If you were Lynch, you'd know how to shut up.
• wkfan

  Colossal coaching blunder couldn't have happened to better guy!!!
• BR1986FB

  Automatik;1702078 wrote:I can't even fathom the reasoning behind it, makes me think it's rigged.

  This was the first thing I thought when he threw it. I thought "fixed....they want Brady to get a fourth ring before he retires" but it's too conspiracy theorish.
• rrfan

  

  Could have thrown it to Lynch for an easy TD. Worst call I have ever seen.
• Uz2Bon36

  

  ESPN talked about all the conspiracy theories are saying they (whoever they is...) didn't want Lynch to win the MVP is why it was a pass play.
• like_that

  

  This conspiracy theory is just as dumb as the people who thought the pats won the SB after 9/11 because they are the "patriots."
• Automatik

  

  I was drunk when I said thoughts of it being rigged came to mind. Not rigged, just stupid.
• ts1227

  

  Uz2Bon36;1702149 wrote:ESPN talked about all the conspiracy theories are saying they (whoever they is...) didn't want Lynch to win the MVP is why it was a pass play.

  Eh, they would just blindly give it to the QB like they do for most awards, that is an easy workaround
• JD413

  

  Colin Cowherd has a nice take on this.
  
  Hope this helps...
• thavoice

  Uz2Bon36;1702149 wrote:ESPN talked about all the conspiracy theories are saying they (whoever they is...) didn't want Lynch to win the MVP is why it was a pass play.

  Did not hear that, but even if Lynch carries the ball and gets the TD he doesnt win the MVP.
  
  
  7 times this season Lynch got the ball at the 1. He scored 3 times.
  With that said, I would still have given him the ball.
  
  I think of they ran that play 100 times, 65 times it is a TD, 34 it is incomplete, and 1 is a INT. Dude made a great play. Most times the DB doesnt make that INT if he gets there at that time. A little better throw by Russell and it is a TD as well.
• thavoice

  like_that;1702169 wrote:This conspiracy theory is just as dumb as the people who thought the pats won the SB after 9/11 because they are the "patriots."

  Exactly.
  In a world where if you have 3 people involved in something it eventually comes out and when you consider how many people would have to be in on some conspiracy like the NFL is fixed and no one comes out and admits it?
• Footwedge

  On the animal house Bull just stated that 66% of passing plays went for touchdowns from the 1 yard line. People that complain about the call need to have their heads examined. Put the blame on who deserves the blame. Wilson...not Carroll.
• Automatik

  

  DB made a great play also, still one of the worst calls of all time.
  
  Carroll's explanation. I didn't watch yet because at work.
  
  [video=youtube;6D1g4nAg_cI][/video]
• thavoice

  Footwedge;1702320 wrote:On the animal house Bull just stated that 66% of passing plays went for touchdowns from the 1 yard line. People that complain about the call need to have their heads examined. Put the blame on who deserves the blame. Wilson...not Carroll.

  I put more praise on the DB than blame on Wilson. It was a good enough pass. If you take a look at how the break he had on the ball.......that gets intercepted very, very rarely.
  
  I am a firm believer that any play called can get the job done if executed correctly, but also believe that coaches need to put the players in the best position to win and succeed. If they had to do it again.......you know they would run the ball.
  
  As for Carroll's explanation......eh, he is just trying to be civil about it and take the blame.
• BRF

  

  I don't think it was that bad of a call. I understand the explanation of the coach. It's hard for me to have any sympathy for the Seahawk fans, being that they won the dang thing just last year.
• thavoice

  BRF;1702339 wrote:I don't think it was that bad of a call. I understand the explanation of the coach. It's hard for me to have any sympathy for the Seahawk fans, being that they won the dang thing just last year.

  There will always be a plausible explanation...i.e. the defense dictates what sort of play to call, but Lynch or Russell needed to be running that ball. Had they even ran that read option play much at all? Last week they fell back on it late in the game. Whenyou lose...you rather lose with no regrets and that wont happen in this one
• FatHobbit

  

  JD413;1702232 wrote:Colin Cowherd has a nice take on this.
  
  Hope this helps...

  I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with Cowherd on anything.
• Footwedge

  thavoice;1702331 wrote:I put more praise on the DB than blame on Wilson. It was a good enough pass. If you take a look at how the break he had on the ball.......that gets intercepted very, very rarely.
  
  I am a firm believer that any play called can get the job done if executed correctly, but also believe that coaches need to put the players in the best position to win and succeed. If they had to do it again.......you know they would run the ball.
  helps the defense.
  
  As for Carroll's explanation......eh, he is just trying to be civil about it and take the blame.

  If they had it over again and rant he ball, then Carroll would e bucking the odds. Not smart.
  
  If you look at pure numbers, throwing the ball gave the Seahawks the best chance to score. Lynch was 3 out of 7 crossing the goal lien from the one yard line this year. conversely, all quarterbacks threw touchdown passes at a 66% clip from the one yard line. Don't know what Wilson's individual stats were in that situation. Moreover, as I posted above, a failed running play would have had negative repercussions. The Seahawks would now be without a time out and would pretty much force them to throw the ball on third and goal. That limits the offense and helps the defense.
  
  Listening to Grossi and all the "experts" on the air today calling it the "worst call in the history of sports" further proves to me how naïve people are.
• Footwedge

  Automatik;1702322 wrote:DB made a great play also, still one of the worst calls of all time.
  
  Carroll's explanation. I didn't watch yet because at work.
  
  [video=youtube;6D1g4nAg_cI][/video]

  Pretty good explanation by Carroll and kudos to him for understanding that running the ball on second down would crimp their style in forcing them to throw on third down if Lynch gets stuffed. Bitch all you want, but throwing the ball was absolutely the, right call to make. Now...if one wants to argue that Wilson should have rolled out with the option to run or throw....no argument from me.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  FatHobbit;1702367 wrote:I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with Cowherd on anything.

  What was his take?
• Con_Alma

  The Seahawks ran Lynch 5 times this year when they were inside the 3yd line. He scored once.
  
  There were 0 1 yd line interceptions this year...until last night. Probably because people run it in!
• se-alum

  

  
• superman

  Patriots had teams run the ball against them from the 1 yard line 6 times. They gave up 5 touchdowns. Odds would dictate a run being a touchdown. Footie, seldom right, and wrong again.