Reds @ Yanks game 1

• SportsAndLady

  

  Series win would be nice.
• Ironman92

  

  
• Ironman92

  

  Just in time! I was worried you were over at thevoice's house
• Ironman92

  

  ....also worried about this little park, Leake needing a good game and a Yankees past their prime lineup compiling over 15,200 career hits
• Azubuike24

  

  Price is so stupid for not rearranging the rotation from best to worst out of the break. He chooses to throw Cueto Sunday, and won't pitch him against the Brewers. Why not go Cueto, Latos, Simon, Leake, Bailey?
• Ironman92

  

  Cueto has a huge number of innings and not many at all last year. Latos and Bailey had to leave early their last starts....Bailey still feeling it. Latos probably fine but being cautious.
  
  Need 6 inn and 3 ER from Leake but I'm highly doubting that
• Azubuike24

  

  So you're saying they are babying Cueto? What does his innings this year and lack thereof last year have to do with starting him Sunday and not tonight? Maybe they should just shut him down for a few weeks. Face it. It's political. Or Price isn't that smart. Every team starts their best starter coming out of their break.
• Ironman92

  

  Great pitch to Jeter
• Ironman92

  

  Azubuike24;1637266 wrote:So you're saying they are babying Cueto? What does his innings this year and lack thereof last year have to do with starting him Sunday and not tonight? Maybe they should just shut him down for a few weeks. Face it. It's political. Or Price isn't that smart. Every team starts their best starter coming out of their break.

  How the fuck is it political? Lol
• Ironman92

  

  Gameday showed 3 pitches to Tex as strikes and ump called all balls....run ensued
• SportsAndLady

  

  Instead of pitching today he'll pitch Sunday lol who gives a shit?
• Ironman92

  

  Look thru today's starters across the league and try to backup your claim lol
• mhs95_06

  Called strikes on Frazier, but better pitches are not to Tex -- need electronic strikes to make it fair. Tennis does it wonderfully!
• Azubuike24

  

  Political meaning trying to act like all starters are "equal." They aren't. Leake is a 4 ERA pitcher who is almost guaranteed to allow 3-4 runs a start.
  
  Strasburg
  Liriano
  Shields
  Bumgarner
  Darvish
  Samardizija
  
  I'm also excluding guys who threw in the All Star Game on Tuesday, who wouldn't be pitching tonight. Then, you have other teams who don't have a true ace.
  
  Cueto is one of the top 5 pitchers in the MLB. He's a huge step above any other Reds starter. He's going to MISS the Milwaukee series, against the team you're chasing.
  
  My point is valid.
• mhs95_06

  That tag on Bruce bailed McCann out. Didn't the Reds run rings around McCann at the end in Atlanta? Isn't defense the reason the Braves let him walk?
• Azubuike24

  

  SportsAndLady;1637272 wrote:Instead of pitching today he'll pitch Sunday lol who gives a shit?

  That was my point, but Ironman pointed out his excessive innings? Why wouldn't you schedule Cueto for the Brewers series? Heck, if anything, throw Latos Sunday and Cueto against the Brewers. Those head to head games are critical...and you will be throwing only 1 of your top 3 starters (statistically).
• mhs95_06

  Leake gives up another run going thru Tex, McCann, Beltran, Ichiro. I blame the first run on the ump, and the 2nd on Frazier to npt have Leake to get to that part of the order with 2 on and no out.
• mhs95_06

  Gardner looking at the same time for the bag and the ball coming for an easy double play and getting no outs, and the Jeter error due to Meso running hard, put the Reds in prime position to really hurt them and all they could get was one run because Bruce and Ludwick can't catch up with the 91 mph fastball like Billy can't either. They wouldn't even have gotten one run that inning had Bruce not had at least a productive out!
• Rotinaj

  

  Well hopefully Cueto, Simon, and Latos can carry us to the playoffs because I have absolutely ZERO faith in Leake and Bailey. In 1 more start Leake has given up 36 more hits than Simon. LOL.
• Azubuike24

  

  Rotinaj;1637290 wrote:Well hopefully Cueto, Simon, and Latos can carry us to the playoffs because I have absolutely ZERO faith in Leake and Bailey. In 1 more start Leake has given up 36 more hits than Simon. LOL.

  In an era where a high 3 ERA is average now (pitching has dominated more and more every year for the last 5), Leak is a 5th starter. He's solid if you have him for his pre-contract years, but he's not a guy I'd ever consider giving a long-term contract. He can easily be replaced if you have any semblance of a decent minor league system.
  
  I read before the break at some point that Leake's "people" were looking at Homer Bailey's numbers to prepare their potential contract demands. That brought the laughs.
• Ironman92

  

  2 shit runs....one on the ump not ringing up Tex 2 diff times on same AB and then Frazier's non-play.
  
  I watch every game and overall the Reds defense is very good....it often seems somewhat lackluster in about 1/2 of Leake's starts.
• Azubuike24

  

  Tonight, the Reds didn't deserve to win. Leake actually wasn't bad. Just wasn't good enough, which is usually a theme. It's going to take a rally. May be easier to hit Robertson though...
• Ironman92

  

  Azubuike24;1637298 wrote:In an era where a high 3 ERA is average now (pitching has dominated more and more every year for the last 5), Leak is a 5th starter. He's solid if you have him for his pre-contract years, but he's not a guy I'd ever consider giving a long-term contract. He can easily be replaced if you have any semblance of a decent minor league system.
  
  I read before the break at some point that Leake's "people" were looking at Homer Bailey's numbers to prepare their potential contract demands. That brought the laughs.

  So there are 120 better starters in MLB?
• Azubuike24

  

  Maybe not 120, but probably 70-80, and considering the talented arms the Reds have "ahead" of him and the marginal cost it would take to replace his rotation spot, it's not worth re-signing him. Especially if he's demanding a contract more than 9-10M a year...
  
  I mean, look at what guys like Edwin Jackson and Ervin Santana got? 11 and 12M a year respectively...both older.
• Azubuike24

  

  AKA, let teams who are deficient at developing arms overpay for him.