Ray Farmer-Genius

• Footwedge

  That is all. Have a great day.
• GOONx19

  

  Let's move up to #1 to draft him.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Glad you're not a GM FW.
• sportchampps

  Brady Quinn went 22 to the Browns
• Lovejoy1984

  

  So did Weeden
• Footwedge

  How many Heismans did Quinn win? How about Weeden?
• Laley23

  

  Didnt I post this somewhere? The Browns would end up with JFF and FW would look like an idiot for judging Farmer so soon?
  
  Not only that, but he trolls the whole draft by getting a shutdown CB AND Buffalos 1st Rder next year.
• Footwedge

  Laley23;1614331 wrote:Didnt I post this somewhere? The Browns would end up with JFF and FW would look like an idiot for judging Farmer so soon?
  
  Not only that, but he trolls the whole draft by getting a shutdown CB AND Buffalos 1st Rder next year.

  Ypu obviously didn't read my postings tonight You wanna bitch? Then get it right clown. What I said was that Farmer needed to get it right. And he did. He was a little lucky, but he got it done.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Can't believe Farmer didn't trade the #26 and 2nd rounder for Wadkins. /Failwedge
• queencitybuckeye

  Quinn. Weeden. Manziel.
  
  That is all.
• like_that

  

  queencitybuckeye;1614357 wrote:Quinn. Weeden. Manziel.
  
  That is all.

  Are people actually using the "well he is the 22nd pick just like those two other guys, so he will suck" logic? If so that's just fucking stupid.
• Tiernan

  Can you say "Ryan Leaf Redeu"?
• GoChiefs

  

  like_that;1614360 wrote:Are people actually using the "well he is the 22nd pick just like those two other guys, so he will suck" logic? If so that's just fucking stupid.

  Don't forget the "well Tim Couch wore #2" and "they were all picks that were traded for...Dallas-Quinn, Atlanta-Weeden" crowds.
• Con_Alma

  The Browns now have 5 quarterbacks coming to camp.
• GoChiefs

  

  Tiernan;1614362 wrote:Can you say "Ryan Leaf Redeu"?

  You're an idiot if you're comparing Manziel to Leaf. I'm not a Manziel fan, but thats a dumbass comparison. Not surprising considering the source.
• like_that

  

  GoChiefs;1614365 wrote:You're an idiot if you're comparing Manziel to Leaf. I'm not a Manziel fan, but thats a dumbass comparison. Not surprising considering the source.

  Can you ban him? Pretty sure he is supposed to be serving a suspension dud to his bet to pick6.
• vball10set

  Drafting Manziel is a win-win for me...if he succeeds, great, and if he fails, oh well.
• Gblock

  i personally think manziel is gonna kill it...he scored like 70 touchdowns a few months out hs...i hate that hes going to the browns i hope they dont ruin him. as far as their draft..i give it an A for getting the defensive player, another 1st round pick and manziel
• SportsAndLady

  

  Gblock;1614369 wrote:i personally think manziel is gonna kill it...he scored like 70 touchdowns a few months out hs...i hate that hes going to the browns i hope they dont ruin him. as far as their draft..i give it an A for getting the defensive player, another 1st round pick and manziel

  So if manziel sucks, it's because the browns ruined him?
  
  He's going to be surrounded by a very good offensive line and two pro bowl receivers. Not to mention a good offensive coordinator. If he fails, it's on him not the browns.
• Pick6

  

  Tiernan;1614362 wrote:Can you say "Ryan Leaf Redeu"?

  Nice to see you made it back. Looking forward to owning you again.

  Gblock;1614369 wrote:i personally think manziel is gonna kill it...he scored like 70 touchdowns a few months out hs...i hate that hes going to the browns i hope they dont ruin him. as far as their draft..i give it an A for getting the defensive player, another 1st round pick and manziel

  manziel redshirted his first year.
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;1614370 wrote:So if manziel sucks, it's because the browns ruined him?
  
  He's going to be surrounded by a very good offensive line and two pro bowl receivers. Not to mention a good offensive coordinator. If he fails, it's on him not the browns.

  I agree.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Pick6;1614372 wrote:Nice to see you made it back.

  It hasn't been 30 days he shouldn't be here.
• Pick6

  

  SportsAndLady;1614376 wrote:It hasn't been 30 days he shouldn't be here.

  Wasn't sure and didn't feel like checking on my phone. Nice catch.
  
  mods, please..
• queencitybuckeye

  like_that;1614360 wrote:Are people actually using the "well he is the 22nd pick just like those two other guys, so he will suck" logic? If so that's just fucking stupid.

  Of course not, it's just a throwaway equally as absurd as proclaiming someone a genius for drafting a player that no one knows whether he can play.
• BR1986FB

  I'll make one comment on this and then move on.
  
  For the OP (i.e. moron).....you'd better hope that Shanahan is the "genius" that Farmer is because he's going to have to create a "schoolyard/draw plays in the dirt" type offense to suit his skillset. He's either going to be a genius or this will be a total clusterfuck.
  
  Either way, at least the city will be "relevant." :rolleyes: