Tribe vs. Tigers (Series Thread)

• wes_mantooth

  

  The Perez thing is comical. He is so sensitive...so why read tweets from a bunch of idiots? Anyhow, why is Rayburn so hated by Detroit fans? I heard Hammy or Manning make a comment about it the last time we played the Tigers. He doesn't seem important enough to be hated..lol
• Footwedge

  Indians schedule is brutal over the next 10 days.
• Wally

  I always kind of liked Raburn, but I know a lot of Tigers fans hate him because he plays April and May like he is the next superstar…then in August and September he can't hit his way out of a paper bag…and Leyland kept playing him day after day.
• Footwedge

  Wally;1445951 wrote:I always kind of liked Raburn, but I know a lot of Tigers fans hate him because he plays April and May like he is the next superstar…then in August and September he can't hit his way out of a paper bag…and Leyland kept playing him day after day.

  Raburn has a 260 lifetimew batting average...which isn't great, but I've seen worse. He's been playing over his head as has a few other Indiand so far.
• TBone14

  

  Tonight will be interesting. Scherzer's number vs us are not nearly as good as I thought they were.
  
  Tigers are 7-5 in Scherzer's 12 starts vs Cleveland. He is 6-4 with 2 NDs. In those starts he has an ERA of 5.17 with a WHIP of 1.458
  
  Kluber has 3 starts vs the Tigers. ERA of 8.04 and WHIP of nearly 2. Numbers are skewed a bit from his start 11 days ago where he was charged with 8 ER and gave up 11 hits, 2 HR, 2 BB vs 4 Ks.
  
  His prior two starts (both in Sept. 2012) he gave up 4 ER over 5 innings and in his win he gave up 2 runs over 6 innings.
  
  So who the hell knows. Could be a wild one. Getting to the Tigers bullpen is always key. They are very inconsistent right now.
• vball10set

  TBone14;1446008 wrote: So who the hell knows. Could be a wild one. Getting to the Tigers bullpen is always key. They are very inconsistent right now.

  This. Right now getting into a 'shootout' with anyone doesn't concern me. We're swinging the bats well and our defense has been stellar. I like our chances anytime our starters can get through the sixth inning, because imo, we have one of the best bullpens in baseball.
• Laley23

  

  Getting to the pen has been the approach all year. We have 3 of the top 15 hitters in pitches seen per plate appearance.
  
  Reynolds
  Santana
  Kipnis
  
  Not to far behind, and I suspect will make it 4 near the top by the end of the year, Swisher.
• HitsRus

  

  Anyhow, why is Rayburn so hated by Detroit fans?

  Probably the same reason Drew Stubbs is hated by Cinci fans....the fans expected, or were led to believe those players were something more than they are. I like both Raburn and Stubbs....but I'm not expecting them to carry the team.
• BR1986FB

  ohiobucks1;1445612 wrote:I'll be in attendance weds. Roll tribe.

  My company will be there tomorrow too although I won't be attending. I asked if I could give the ticket away but they won't do it.
• TBone14

  

  Laley23;1446057 wrote:Getting to the pen has been the approach all year. We have 3 of the top 15 hitters in pitches seen per plate appearance.
  
  Reynolds
  Santana
  Kipnis
  
  Not to far behind, and I suspect will make it 4 near the top by the end of the year, Swisher.

  
  No doubt. Swisher comes from that Oakland A's/Yankees approach of working the hell out of pitchers. Swisher strikes out a lot because he hits with 2 strikes a lot. He has a great eye and plate discipline and walks a ton. I think he is either teaching this approach or rubbing off on guys. Even Cabrera looks a little more disciplined at the plate even though he hasn't found his groove yet. There are still times when Swish will jump on a 1st pitch fastball but more time than not he making guys throw multiple strikes in an at bat and lots of pitches.
• HitsRus

  

  TBone14;1446008 wrote:Tonight will be interesting. Scherzer's number vs us are not nearly as good as I thought they were.
  
  Tigers are 7-5 in Scherzer's 12 starts vs Cleveland. He is 6-4 with 2 NDs. In those starts he has an ERA of 5.17 with a WHIP of 1.458
  
  Kluber has 3 starts vs the Tigers. ERA of 8.04 and WHIP of nearly 2. Numbers are skewed a bit from his start 11 days ago where he was charged with 8 ER and gave up 11 hits, 2 HR, 2 BB vs 4 Ks.
  
  His prior two starts (both in Sept. 2012) he gave up 4 ER over 5 innings and in his win he gave up 2 runs over 6 innings.
  
  So who the hell knows. Could be a wild one. Getting to the Tigers bullpen is always key. They are very inconsistent right now.

  I expect Kluber to be inconsistent, because young pitchers often are. I expect both Kazmir and McCallister to have their bad days too. What'll determine whether these guys will have good years, is how they bounce back from those bad outings.
• Crimson streak

  

  This is probably klubers last shot to stay in the rotation. If he has a bad outing I expect Bauer to take his spot or Myers when he comes off the DL. So it's a big start for him.
• TBone14

  

  No Swisher tonight. He was placed on the Paternity List. He must remain on the PL for 1-3 days.
• vball10set

  Here we go!!!
• TBone14

  

  Looks like Kluber has been alright. Miggy is on a different level right now.
• TBone14

  

  Close the book on Kluber. I didn't get to watch but the line is good.
  
  6 and a third. 8 hits, 3 runs, no walks and 8 Ks.
  
  Solo homer to Dirks and a 2 run homer to Cabrera who is smoking hot. Glad they are only in town for 2 with the way he is swinging. He can win ball games by himself.
  
  Scherzer must be dealing as well. Need to get to him.
• Sonofanump

  Well I've never seen that before. Santana was standing straight up. Prince swung at a pitch that was at his eyes.
• Laley23

  

  I had a feeling we would lose both. Didnt want to say it, but the match-ups were not in our favor. Maybe we can get to JV againa and Ubaldo will stay hot. Surprised Kluber did as well as he did.
• Glory Days

  

  sucks we they had kluber going today, he has no chance against detroit. correct me if i am wrong but masterson hasnt faced them yet correct?
• Sonofanump

  Not sure how I missed this the first time, it's explainable, but funny:
  

  Footwedge;1445973 wrote:Raburn has a 260 lifetimew batting average...which isn't great, but I've seen worse. He's been playing over his head as has a few other Indiand so far.

  Will the Indiand make the playoffs?
• Footwedge

  Sonofanump;1446364 wrote:Not sure how I missed this the first time, it's explainable, but funny:
  
  
  
  Will the Indiand make the playoffs?

  They have a 90% chance of it being a 50-50 proposition, There...you can kill 4 hours deciphering that.
• vball10set

  Laley23;1446357 wrote:I had a feeling we would lose both. Didnt want to say it, but the match-ups were not in our favor. Maybe we can get to JV againa and Ubaldo will stay hot. Surprised Kluber did as well as he did.

  Yeah, I've got a bad feeling we're going into a mini-slump....and I don't like this team as much w/o Swisher in the lineup. Definitely need a good outing from Ubaldo tonight moving into our series with the BoSox.
• vball10set

  The way we play tonight will dictate how we play in Beantown. It'll be tough to get some mojo going if we get beat up again, so we need to score some runs and have Ubaldo do his thing.
• TBone14

  

  Ubaldo spots Verlander a two run lead.
  
  Running out of adjectives for the way Miguel Cabrera is hitting the ball.
• TBone14

  

  Ubaldo hot garbage tonight. Spots DET 2 in the first. Offense rallys for him and ties it but the Tigers knocking him around for at least 4 more in the 3rd.