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Ironman92

Years of head to head collisions greatly damaged his brain and assisted in him not being able to live an everyday life.

LJ

While unfortunate, that's the life they choose.

dlazz

Ironman92;1362456 wrote:Years of head to head collisions greatly damaged his brain and assisted in him not being able to live an everyday life.

Years of head to head collisions also made him millions of dollars.

GoChiefs

dlazz;1362488 wrote:Years of head to head collisions also made him millions of dollars.

Point?

ernest_t_bass

GoChiefs;1362494 wrote:Point?

LJ;1362468 wrote:While unfortunate, that's the life they choose.

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sleeper

GoChiefs;1362494 wrote:Point?

Don't want head injuries, don't play sports.

thavoice

I forget..did he leave a note or whatever saying he shot himself in the chest so they could study his brain? Or was that just speculation at the time?

Either way.....IF he had the wits about him to do that, him knowing he was messed up, then why wouldnt he have gotten help or whatever?

I think it is more likely he shot himself in the chest instead of the head because he vain enough to want to look good and have an open casket instead of having his head blown to shreds

Scarlet_Buckeye

I don't honestly believe this, but it is an interesting thought...

With the way the NFL is getting PLASTERED for all the "rule changes" and the way it's "regulating the game," what if the NFL seized this opportunity and, in a sense, "paid-off" the Seau family to come out and say it was CTE? Again, not saying I believe this, but it IS an interesting conspiracy theory. I mean, think about it... think about the timing... think about how much money the NFL stands to gain off of this...

The NFL is getting LAMBASTED with how they're "ruining the game" and fans "threatening to stop watching"... The NFL stands to risk losing A LOT of money if they fail on all these "rule changes" and "regulations." It could just be worth paying some family (or medical examiner) an INSANE boat-load of money to come out and say, "Yeah... this was due to CTE... which can/is caused by repeatitive shots to the head"... and then the NFL has it's "poster-child" essentially for how/why they're going to regulate the game they way they are.

I mean, this "incident" is essentially an Ace in the hole for the NFL and a "get-out-of-jail" card for taking any heat on the way they're legislating the game.

AGAIN... let me re-iterate... I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS TO BE TRUE. I'm simply sharing a (interesting) thought. You can't deny... it would make a lot of $$$ sense... and we all know $$$ rules everything.

dlazz

Scarlet_Buckeye;1362733 wrote:With the way the NFL is getting PLASTERED for all the "rule changes" and the way it's "regulating the game," what if the NFL seized this opportunity and, in a sense, "paid-off" the Seau family to come out and say it was CTE? Again, not saying I believe this, but it IS an interesting conspiracy theory. I mean, think about it... think about the timing... think about how much money the NFL stands to gain off of this...

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. They stand to gain no money off of it. None. Zero.

If anything, it just gives former players another reason to sue.

Scarlet_Buckeye

LJ;1362468 wrote:While unfortunate, that's the life they choose.

This.

IMO, while all these "brain damages" and "head trauma" are said, IMO NFL players are "buyers." They're the ones signing up to play. No one is forcing them to go out there and play. To borrow a line from another sport, Dana White always likes to say, "I don't make you fight" or "I'm not going to make you fight."

Thus, it's my opinion that this is no different than "buyer beware" or buyer's "assumption of risk."

hasbeen

LJ;1362468 wrote:While unfortunate, that's the life they choose.

dlazz;1362488 wrote:Years of head to head collisions also made him millions of dollars.

Exactly.

Make the game safer, but don't do it at the expense of the game. If they don't want to play, they can choose another profession.

Scarlet_Buckeye

dlazz;1362738 wrote:If anything, it just gives former players another reason to sue.

Sure it gives former players another reason to sue, but it (in a sense) breaks the cycle.
Now the NFL will be able to input new regulations to limit the violent hits, which in turn will largely be accepted by the public now (when previously it wasn't) because the NFL now has it's "poster child."
Thus, by implementing new rules & regulations, the NFL is essentially breaking the cycle and preventing itself from BIGGER and MORE lawsuits.
Short-term, the NFL stands to LOSE money off of this ruling.
Long-term, the NFL stands to SAVE a monumental amount more.

dlazz

Scarlet_Buckeye;1362757 wrote: Short-term, the NFL stands to LOSE money off of this ruling.
Long-term, the NFL stands to SAVE a monumental amount more.

Just stop.

shook_17

Right. Honestly they get paid millions of dollars to play football. STFU its annoying. Hell Id play NFL for 100 gs a year with those risks. You dont like it dont ply the game. Suicide is the cowardly way out.

Scarlet_Buckeye

dlazz;1362772 wrote:Just stop.

Stop looking like your avatar.

Fly4Fun

What will be interesting to see is if there is a decline in football at the grade school level or not.

Scarlet_Buckeye

Fly4Fun;1363014 wrote:What will be interesting to see is if there is a decline in football at the grade school level or not.

This.

It pains me to say this, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised in the least if the #s for football dramatically decline and the #s for, say, soccer [or insert basketball, baseball] dramatically increase.

Scarlet_Buckeye

Another interesting question is... why is this topic [i.e., head trauma and CTE] such a huge concern for Football, but sports like MMA and Boxing seemingly get a pass? I mean, I know MMA, Boxing, and Hockey are facing similar issues [i.e., fighters/players impaired at the end of their careers], but these sports (aside form maybe Hockey) are far more brutal than Football, and you don't really see the public outry or the respective regulating bodies making changes/rules/regulations to reduce the # of head traumas in their sports [like you do with the NFL]. Now, I'll be the first to admit that could largely be because those other two sports aren't as BIG as the NFl, but still. I mean, you still have people punching each other in the face. Perhaps they are / have and I simply am unaware of these changes.

Fly4Fun

Scarlet_Buckeye;1363039 wrote:Another interesting question is... why is this topic [i.e., head trauma and CTE] such a huge concern for Football, but sports like MMA and Boxing seemingly get a pass? I mean, I know MMA and Boxing are facing similar issues, but both are more brutal sports than Football and you don't really see changes/rules/regulations being made to reduce the # of head traumas in their sports. I mean, you still have people punching each other in the face. Perhaps they are / have made changes that I'm simply unaware of.

For one they aren't as nearly as main stream. And generally there isn't a large section of our countries children participating in them. Yes, some kids do actually box at a young age, but most "fighting" sports at a young age don't involve repeated blows to the head. It isn't until adulthood that those athletes (wrestling or martial arts) try to transfer their skills to MMA.

Scarlet_Buckeye

Fly4Fun;1363043 wrote:For one they aren't as nearly as main stream. And generally there isn't a large section of our countries children participating in them. Yes, some kids do actually box at a young age, but most "fighting" sports at a young age don't involve repeated blows to the head. It isn't until adulthood that those athletes (wrestling or martial arts) try to transfer their skills to MMA.

So we're saying if you're under 18 yrs of age, we'll protect you.
But if you're 18+, we really don't care about ya.

Yes this post is a little facetious / tongue-in-cheek, but it's kinda true.

Fly4Fun

Scarlet_Buckeye;1363071 wrote:So we're saying if you're under 18 yrs of age, we'll protect you.
But if you're 18+, we really don't care about ya.

Yes this post is a little facetious / tongue-in-cheek, but it's kinda true.

It's an unspoken American truth. We tend to be more outraged and wanting change when something is negatively affecting the children as opposed to an equal negative consequence for adults.

hasbeen

Fly4Fun;1363014 wrote:What will be interesting to see is if there is a decline in football at the grade school level or not.

I've always been a firm believer that there's no reason to play tackle football too young. It's a game that can be picked up quickly.

Ironman92

hasbeen;1363286 wrote:I've always been a firm believer that there's no reason to play tackle football too young. It's a game that can be picked up quickly.

No...it's critical to practice 2 hours a night Mon-Thurs in grades 3-5

Crimson streak

I can honest say from playing tackle football since 5th grade through college that I have definitely had a few symptoms of cte. It has mainly hit in the last year where I will forget things and have crazy mood swings where I will flip out over nothing. But I can honestly say I wouldn't have not played football if I knew this would happen. It's a price ill pay for the rest of my life but I wouldn't trade it for the world and I didn't even get paid for it, so I highly doubt players getting paid millions care

fan_from_texas

Fly4Fun;1363014 wrote:What will be interesting to see is if there is a decline in football at the grade school level or not.

Probably. As more and more research comes out on this issue, I suspect parents will hesitate to let their kids play. That's certainly the mindset in our circle of friends.

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