Reds @ Rockies goin for da sweep

• SportsAndLady

  

  Best team in baseball going for 10 in a row
  
  Gonna lose
• SportsAndLady

  

  Lets get some trade talk going
  
  1-do you want to see the reds make a move at the deadline?
  2-who/what position do you want them to target?
  3-realistically, do we have the "pieces" to land a big target?
  
  John Fay:
  

  DENVER — All the speculation around the Reds as we approach the non-waiver deadline revolves around three players: Minnesota’s Denard Span and Shane Victorino and Juan Pierre of Philadelphia.
  
  But I think another player will have a great effect on what the Reds do. That’s Billy Hamilton.
  
  
  Hamilton is the leadoff man of the future. There’s no question about that. I also think his future is in the outfield. The question is when does the future begin. Hamilton is hitting .306 with a .443 on-base after 49 at-bats at Double-A after hitting .323 with .413 at high A.
  If the Reds think Hamilton is going to be ready as some point next year, that would probably eliminate Span from the equation. He’s signed for $4.75 million for 2013, $6.5 million for 2014 and has a $9 million option for 2015. If Hamilton is going to be on the Opening Day roster in 2014, you don’t want to be paying Span.
  
  
  Because Span is signed, the Twins can demand more for him. His .348 on-base would be an upgrade at leadoff, but would it be worth putting left-hander Tony Cingrani or right-hander Daniel Corcino in the package — if Hamilton is close?
  
  
  Victorino and Pierre are rental players. Both will be free agents after the season. Victorino, however, makes $9.5 million; Pierre $800,000.
  Victorino is not having a great year. He’s hitting .256 with a .321 on-base. His career marks are .276 and .342.
  
  
  Pierre makes the most sense in some ways. He’s cheap and has the best numbers. He’s hitting .305 with a .345 on-base and 23 steals in the 27 attempts. But he hasn’t played center field since 2009. If the Reds still think he can player center, he’d be the good guy to spell Drew Stubbs against tough right-handers. Pierre is hitting .333 with a .373 on-base against righties.
  
  
  The other alternative is stand pat and move Brandon Phillips to leadoff once Joey Votto returns. Ryan Ludwick has looked like a cleanup guy since mid-June.
  
  
  One thing to remember is Walt Jocketty often surprises when it comes to trades. There was no speculation about Mat Latos or Sean Marshall before the Reds traded for them.

• Midstate01

  

  First off, reds lose today. Sanchez has been terrible all year.. But he's owned the reds in his career.
  
  As for the trade... I'll trust Walt. The team is playin really well, but I doubt he's fooled. I think they'll make a move.
• Midstate01

  

  Just saw that Marty has told the team he will shave his head if they win today and make it 10 in a row.
• Ironman92

  

  That's a huge gesture by the pompous HOFer.
  
  Major props.
• Midstate01

  

  Rutlidge has torn us up this series. Gonna be another shoot out by the looks of it.
• jordo212000

  

  If Heisey played CF, we wouldnt need to make a trade
  
  He could play CF and leadoff and then Ludwick could play LF. Not sure why the Reds are convinced they need to overpay for Victorino when a guy on the team is better than him right now.
  
  Would be nice to get a lefty specialist. And in an ideal world we get a SP and send Bronson to the Citgo in time for the stretch run
• jordo212000

  

  Also need a good bench guy. And need to not allow Dusty to play Rolen so much when Votto returns
• Terry_Tate

  

  Reds lose 6-4.
• jordo212000

  

  Sanchez sucks. He is one of those guys who do less with more.
• Terry_Tate

  

  Stubbs with a sacrifice fly to give the Reds a 3-2 lead. Keeping his good streak alive.
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000;1236507 wrote:If Heisey played CF, we wouldnt need to make a trade
  
  He could play CF and leadoff and then Ludwick could play LF. Not sure why the Reds are convinced they need to overpay for Victorino when a guy on the team is better than him right now.
  
  Would be nice to get a lefty specialist. And in an ideal world we get a SP and send Bronson to the Citgo in time for the stretch run

  Lol...easy....Heisey is not that good.
  
  The reason why I don't really feel like we need a leadoff guy at the deadline, is because I think Billy Hamilton comes up in September as the leadoff guy and stays.
• jordo212000

  

  What position does Hamilton play when he comes up? He isn't playing CF right now
• Midstate01

  

  Stubbs is on fire
• Midstate01

  

  Please don't be hurt Phillips. He def looked like he was in pain.
• Midstate01

  

  Bruuuuuuuuuuce
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000;1236549 wrote:What position does Hamilton play when he comes up? He isn't playing CF right now

  They said he can play CF, just isn't right now
• mhs95_06

  SportsAndLady;1236557 wrote:They said he can play CF, just isn't right now

  We don't want incoming players just to be able to "play" a certain position. One of the Reds advantages over most other teams is their excellent defense. We don't want to sacrifice it, by putting incoming players in a position at which they don't play at a high level of proficiency.
• sportswizuhrd

  Once again Latos' wife is getting harassed on twitter(yes I follow her and I think some others on here do also, she blogs for MLB.com too) today because of the first inning. Some people saying they want him to get injured and not come back, others saying he would be in the pen if the playoffs started tomorrow because of his E.R.A. I think he would be a starter come playoff time.
• sportswizuhrd

  mhs95_06;1236567 wrote:We don't want incoming players just to be able to "play" a certain position. One of the Reds advantages over most other teams is their excellent defense. We don't want to sacrifice it, by putting incoming players in a position at which they don't play at a high level of proficiency.

  What do you think about giving him a roster spot for late inning Pinch Running?
• Midstate01

  

  sportswizuhrd;1236577 wrote:Once again Latos' wife is getting harassed on twitter(yes I follow her and I think some others on here do also, she blogs for MLB.com too) today because of the first inning. Some people saying they want him to get injured and not come back, others saying he would be in the pen if the playoffs started tomorrow because of his E.R.A. I think he would be a starter come playoff time.

  
  A lot of idiots out there.
• SportsAndLady

  

  mhs95_06;1236567 wrote:We don't want incoming players just to be able to "play" a certain position. One of the Reds advantages over most other teams is their excellent defense. We don't want to sacrifice it, by putting incoming players in a position at which they don't play at a high level of proficiency.

  He's played CF before. He can play multiple positions, doesn't mean he's terrible at any one.
  
  He's the leadoff man of the Reds future...if he's not the all time greatest defensive CF ever, he'll make up for it in other ways.
• Ironman92

  

  sportswizuhrd;1236579 wrote:What do you think about giving him a roster spot for late inning Pinch Running?

  
  It's the obvious thing to do.
  
  Hello, Dave Roberts.
• mhs95_06

  sportswizuhrd;1236579 wrote:What do you think about giving him a roster spot for late inning Pinch Running?

  That is fine on Sept 1st.
• Midstate01

  

  Here come the pirates. Down 9-3 in the 9th. Have a run in( on another wild pitch) amd 2 on amd no outs.