Reds vs Brewers....Game 1

• Midstate01

  

  Rotinaj;1211565 wrote:Yea that's also when he gives up those 4 run innings. Honestly, throwing that many strikes in a row just seems like a horrible idea. It did work though so I can't complain much.

  
  I'm not saying throwing every ball down the middle. He's gettin ahead, then getting guys out on the corners. When he struggles its because he falls behind, becomes predictable, and throws pitches right over the middle.
• Midstate01

  

  Phillies all over the pirates 7-2
  Miami up 1-0 on the cards.
• jordo212000

  

  se-alum;1211538 wrote:Playing AAA right now, and also had no position on the Reds team. We traded two unproven prospects who had no position to play on the big club, for a pitcher that had proven stats. This trade was the complete opposite of the Hamilton trade.

  
  Alonso hit at the big league level.
  
  Grandal is still a great prospect.
  
  Just saying we gave up a ton to get Latos and so far he has been wildly inconsistent. Those guys could have been used in other trades. All I'm saying...
• Midstate01

  

  Maybe nobody I enjoy seeing suck more then Nijer Morgan. What a douche
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000;1211572 wrote:Just saying we gave up a ton to get Latos and so far he has been wildly inconsistent.

  No that's not what you're just saying...you're saying the trade is similar to the Volquez/Hamilton trade...and so far, as sealum has pointed out, it's absolutely not.
• wildcats20

  

  HP ump is terrible.
• jordo212000

  

  SportsAndLady;1211585 wrote:No that's not what you're just saying...you're saying the trade is similar to the Volquez/Hamilton trade...and so far, as sealum has pointed out, it's absolutely not.

  
  What? Trading talent for a wildly inconsistent guy with a nice arm isn't similar? Look at media articles regarding the trade. Nearly everybody said the Reds gave up a ton
• wildcats20

  

  11 Ks for Latos. Solid outing, nice to get him the W though.
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000;1211593 wrote:What? Trading talent for a wildly inconsistent guy with a nice arm isn't similar? Look at media articles regarding the trade. Nearly everybody said the Reds gave up a ton

  He had a 3.47 ERA last year. A 2.92 ERA the year before...where exactly is the inconsistency? He's been inconsistent this year, sure. But he's pitching in a completely different ballpark on a completely different team. I fully expect him to be our clear #2 best pitcher by year's end. I'm not at all worried about Latos, or our pitching staff in general, really.
  
  But you're not even getting our point...the two trades have zero in common.
• SportsAndLady

  

  wildcats20;1211605 wrote:nice to get him the W though.

  Jinx much?
• wildcats20

  

  No shit.
• jordo212000

  

  SportsAndLady;1211608 wrote:He had a 3.47 ERA last year. A 2.92 ERA the year before...where exactly is the inconsistency? He's been inconsistent this year, sure. But he's pitching in a completely different ballpark on a completely different team. I fully expect him to be our clear #2 best pitcher by year's end. I'm not at all worried about Latos, or our pitching staff in general, really.
  
  But you're not even getting our point...the two trades have zero in common.

  
  Yeah.. And when Cincy got Volquez he came in with good numbers / hype.
  
  Production aside, Latos is a head case
  
  http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/reds-pay-big-to-acquire-mat-latos-from-padres?urn=mlb,wp28755

  it's not Latos' talent that is called into question, it's his maturity. We've discussed those maturity issues a time or two here on Big League Stew. Hayes cited one source that says there was "a ton" of concern within the Padres front office about Latos' ability to overcome those maturity issues

• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000;1211624 wrote:Yeah.. And when Cincy got Volquez he came in with good numbers / hype.
  
  Production aside, Latos is a head case
  
  http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/reds-pay-big-to-acquire-mat-latos-from-padres?urn=mlb,wp28755

  LOL so are you going to give any examples of his inconsistency in SD, or are you just gonna keep saying it w/ no evidence?
  
  And wow, a SD front office guy said he had mental issues AFTER he was traded...great source there.
• jordo212000

  

  SportsAndLady;1211631 wrote:LOL so are you going to give any examples of his inconsistency in SD, or are you just gonna keep saying it w/ no evidence?
  
  And wow, a SD front office guy said he had mental issues AFTER he was traded...great source there.

  
  Inconsistent this year. Was good in San Diego, but if you follow my logic, I was saying Edinson wasn't a scrub when we got him. My original point: Latos' performance is reminiscent of Edinson whom we acquired by giving up a future star because we thought we had others in organization who could replace them.
• wildcats20

  

  Very simple answer Thom.
  
  Latos starts the inning. As soon as a guy gets on, you bring in Aroldis.
• wildcats20

  

  BP with a solid 2 bagger to the wall.
• wildcats20

  

  I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that steal by BP.
• Midstate01

  

  Bruce tagged that ball. Can't believe hart made that play.
• mhs95_06

  wildcats20;1211671 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that steal by BP.

  But it goes for naught as another reds hitter can't get the runner in from 3rd with less than two out.
• wildcats20

  

  Latos is back out there.
• wildcats20

  

  CG, 4 hitter, 2 BBs, 13 Ks.
  
  Pretty shitty night.
• Midstate01

  

  Hell of an outing by Latos!!
• Midstate01

  

  Pirates and cards both getting beat up in the late innings!
• wildcats20

  

  One of, it not, the best outing of the year by a Reds pitcher?
• Midstate01

  

  wildcats20;1211697 wrote:One of, it not, the best outing of the year by a Reds pitcher?

  
  Easily