Poll: Eli Manning vs. Ben Roethlisberger

• killer_ewok

  

  Y-Town Steelhound;1077481 wrote:I mean he was sacked 6 times in the NFC championship, 3 times last night. Both have played with pro bowlers, but Ben has played with guys like Faneca and Pouncey.
  
  I would guess the O-lines would be pretty close to a push. Ben is the more mobile one however, so he can make up for his offensive line some of the time.

  
  The 49ers have a very good defense so I didn't consider those 6 sacks as an indicator of how good/bad the NYG o-line was. I mean, the Steelers pulled Max Starks off a couch to protect Ben's blindside for several games this season. LOL
  
  If you're saying it's a push...I'll take your word for it.
• killer_ewok

  

  Career INT's
  
  Eli - 129
  
  Ben - 100
• j_crazy

  

  Stat wise its hard to tell. Oh wait its not. Eli is the better playoff QB.
• Automatik

  

  j_crazy;1077626 wrote:Stat wise its hard to tell. Oh wait its not. Eli is the better playoff QB.

  If going strictly by record how is 8-4 better than 10-3?
• j_crazy

  

  I must not be going strictly by their record.
• killer_ewok

  

  Automatik;1077639 wrote:If going strictly by record how is 8-4 better than 10-3?

  
  Ben is 10-4 in the postseason (New England, Jacksonville, Green Bay, Denver). Almost identical winning percentage with a slight edge to Eli. Toss-up IMO.
• Automatik

  

  j_crazy;1077641 wrote:I must not be going strictly by their record.

  Their stats are pretty similar, except that Ben has more than doubled up Eli regarding INTs.
  
  Ben also has 3 rushing TDs while Eli has none.
• wes_mantooth

  

  Eli.
• Skyhook79

  

  killer_ewok;1077646 wrote:Ben is 10-4 in the postseason (New England, Jacksonville, Green Bay, Denver). Almost identical winning percentage with a slight edge to Eli. Toss-up IMO.

  Eli is 8-3 in the postseason.
• killer_ewok

  

  Skyhook79;1077673 wrote:Eli is 8-3 in the postseason.

  
  Yes...and that's why Eli's winning pct. in the postseason is a little better.
• Enforcer

  

  I'll take Eli because Hes not injured as much
• scoreboard

  

  Automatik;1077430 wrote:Can't go wrong with either really. They both have proven they can come from behind and win when it matters most. Eli just did it one more time.

  Ben usually proves that in the ladies room though.
• hoops23

  

  LOL at Pittsburgh homers picking Ben...
  
  Super Bowl performances, nuff said
• Commander of Awesome

  

  killer_ewok;1077583 wrote:Career INT's
  
  Eli - 129
  
  Ben - 100

  I'm surprised that Eli has that many more. I think some of that comes from pitt's style early in Roethlisberger's career. He would sometimes only throw 14 times a game and they'd win because of their awesome defense and rushing attack. However that doesn't explain 30 more INTs.
  
  I'd still take Eli. Roethlisberger's style leads to more injuries, think Eli is a better teammate and captain, think he has a better arm, and I think he is a better cerebral player.
• GOONx19

  

  Which team's O-line?
• Gblock

  lol at people picking eli the giants were 8-8 this year?? but not for two fumbled kickoffs they didnt beat the 49ers
• killer_ewok

  

  hoops23;1078009 wrote:LOL at Pittsburgh homers picking Ben...
  
  Super Bowl performances, nuff said

  
  #1. If it's that clear cut then why did someone start the thread in the first place? Are you going to call them out for starting the discussion/debate?
  
  #2. Although I'm surprised by how rational some of the Browns fans are being...they're probably not the most objective bunch to be asking this question either. I admitted that there's some bias on my end.
  
  I don't have any problem with people picking Eli...but I do think it's up for debate.
• GoChiefs

  

  Gblock;1078074 wrote:lol at people picking eli the giants were 8-8 this year?? but not for two fumbled kickoffs they didnt beat the 49ers

  
  And if Vanderjagt doesn't miss the FG in the '05 AFC Championship game, Ben might have only one ring and we aren't having this discussion.
• Gblock

  GoChiefs;1078089 wrote:And if Vanderjagt doesn't miss the FG in the '05 AFC Championship game, Ben might have only one ring and we aren't having this discussion.

  big difference between missing a 44 yard field goal to two fourth quarter fumbles and the giants were still 8-8 this year
• Skyhook79

  

  Gblock;1078101 wrote:big difference between missing a 44 yard field goal to two fourth quarter fumbles and the giants were still 8-8 this year

  If it wasn't for Big Ben making a game saving tackle on the Bettis fumble the steelers don't win either. Also the Giants were 9-7 this year.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  Gblock;1078101 wrote:big difference between missing a 44 yard field goal to two fourth quarter fumbles and the giants were still 8-8 this year

  they were 9-7 and didn't get beat by Tebow. Nuff said.
• Gblock

  9-7 i stand corrected
• GoChiefs

  

  Gblock;1078110 wrote:9-7 i stand corrected

  
  With probably a tougher schedule as well.
• Y-Town Steelhound

  

  Commander of Awesome;1078043 wrote:I'm surprised that Eli has that many more.

  Eli has more attempts, so naturally he's going to have more INT's.
• Skyhook79

  

  Y-Town Steelhound;1078182 wrote:Eli has more attempts, so naturally he's going to have more INT's.

  Good point. It's like 700 more attempts. Ben throws about 1 pick for every 30 passes, that would add 25 more Int's to Ben total.