Least favorite professional athletes

• shook_17

  

  BR1986FB;1077013 wrote:Two Super Bowl wins. That will get him in. Guys like Namath & Bradshaw who will have had worse career stats when Eli's career ends are in. Eli will get in, along with Coughlin, on that second SB victory.

  
  completely agree. eli is elite and will be a hall of famer. what he had 17 td passes in the fourth quarter this year? and thats not counting the playoffs?! get outta here with that shit that he is in the same class as stafford and ryan. he has two superbowl rings. last time i checked that was more than peyton manning, aarron rodgers and drew brees.
• BearBoy69

  

  Eli is not elite end of discussion, he is in the very good category
  
  and dont get me started on Colt Mccoy. Browns fans don't know how to be good, so now they have a good QB they don't know what hit them, when Cribbs is your 2nd option, you need some good Wideouts. Give him two good targets, he'd put up Eli's numbers in a year or two. Browns fans make me LOL
• BR1986FB

  BearBoy69;1077084 wrote:and dont get me started on Colt Mccoy. Browns fans don't know how to be good, so now they have a good QB they don't know what hit them, when Cribbs is your 2nd option, you need some good Wideouts. Give him two good targets, he'd put up Eli's numbers in a year or two. Browns fans make me LOL

  :laugh::laugh::laugh:
• royal_k

  

  Eli is now in the elite category. And Welker and the rest of the bozos that dropped passes had more to do with the Patriots losing than the Giants defense did. If they catch the ball, the game probably turns out differently.
• BR1986FB

  royal_k;1077091 wrote:Eli is now in the elite category. And Welker and the rest of the bozos that dropped passes had more to do with the Patriots losing than the Giants defense did. If they catch the ball, the game probably turns out differently.

  Not to mention Brady giftwrapping 2 points on that safety.
• Automatik

  

  BearBoy69;1077084 wrote:Eli is not elite end of discussion, he is in the very good category
  
  and dont get me started on Colt Mccoy. Browns fans don't know how to be good, so now they have a good QB they don't know what hit them, when Cribbs is your 2nd option, you need some good Wideouts. Give him two good targets, he'd put up Eli's numbers in a year or two. Browns fans make me LOL

  But Peyton is?
  
  Sorry, Eli's stats, wins, 4th quarter comebacks and 2 rings say different. "End of discussion." :rolleyes:
• sleeper

  

  I think its funny that the standard for elite/non-elite was a missed hail mary attempt at the end of the game. Gronkowski catches that pass to win it and Eli and elite never touch the same sentence.
  
  Logic fail. Eli is a good QB, but he's no HOF. If so, you have a low standard for HOF.
• Mulva

  

  Automatik;1077021 wrote:Was the Denver defense driving down the field in the 4th quarter for those come from behind wins this season?
  
  It's time to give credit where it is due. Tebow is one of the top QBs in the game.

  Is it still applicable?
• Automatik

  

  Mulva;1077233 wrote:Is it still applicable?

  No, not even close.
• Skyhook79

  

  Mulva;1077233 wrote:Is it still applicable?

  Tebow hasn't won 2 Super Bowls and 2 Super Bowl MVP's to go along with those facts.
• Mulva

  

  Automatik;1077236 wrote:No, not even close.

  Interesting.
• Automatik

  

  Mulva;1077255 wrote:Interesting.

  I don't even know what you're trying to get at. Are comparing Tebow to Eli? :laugh:
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  I don't think 4th quarter come backs should hold much water. You shouldn't be in the position where you're constantly having to win games on final drives. Just my opinion.
• Skyhook79

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1077263 wrote:I don't think 4th quarter come backs should hold much water. You shouldn't be in the position where you're constantly having to win games on final drives. Just my opinion.

  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=7270
  
  
  A lot of HOF QB's on the list of most 4th qtr comebacks. I think it holds water.
• BearBoy69

  

  BR1986FB;1077089 wrote::laugh::laugh::laugh:

  point proven. The Steelers have 6 super bowl rings. 3 different coaches since '69, and we never gave up on Big Ben when he went through troubles. We keep one set system in play instead of demanding change all the time like a bunch of morons, but i guess ignorance is bliss.
  
  second off I agree with Raw Dawg with the comebacks. Eli is good, but is NOT Peyton Manning. Peyton made that team, whereas the giants would do just fine and still make the playoffs(maybe not win a SB) with a QB the likes of Phillip Rivers.
• BR1986FB

  BearBoy69;1077283 wrote:point proven. The Steelers have 6 super bowl rings. 3 different coaches since '69, and we never gave up on Big Ben when he went through troubles. We keep one set system in play instead of demanding change all the time like a bunch of morons, but i guess ignorance is bliss.
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  TheRapist is also a TOP 15 draft pick, is as big as an offensive lineman (tough to bring down) and has a CANNON for an arm. Tell me you can say the SAME about Colt McCoy? I'm ALL for "staying the course" and "continuity" when the situation FITS but I'm not stupid enough to bet the farm on a "slight, weak armed 3rd round QB' (going into his THIRD year) when there will be better options in the draft/FA this year.
  
  I wish they would've drafted a QB in 1999 that they could've stuck with but they didn't. I don't like seeing changes year in and year out as much as anybody elese but you don't just "stay the course" for the sake of doing it.
  
  And part of the reason Pittsburgh has "stuck with" Roethlisberger and various coaches is that their ownership is cheap. Easier to pay player/coach through most of or all of their contract versus change.
• shook_17

  

  BearBoy69;1077283 wrote:point proven. The Steelers have 6 super bowl rings. 3 different coaches since '69, and we never gave up on Big Ben when he went through troubles. We keep one set system in play instead of demanding change all the time like a bunch of morons, but i guess ignorance is bliss.
  
  second off I agree with Raw Dawg with the comebacks. Eli is good, but is NOT Peyton Manning. Peyton made that team, whereas the giants would do just fine and still make the playoffs(maybe not win a SB) with a QB the likes of Phillip Rivers.

  first off big ben was a first round draft pick not a third round. that is just a stupid idiotic agruement. so "end of discussion" on that topic. and you really think the giants would have won to superbowls without eli manning? eli is elite end of story
• Automatik

  

  Oh yeah.....Michael Bisping. I really dislike that asshole.
• royal_k

  

  shook_17;1077320 wrote:first off big ben was a first round draft pick not a third round. that is just a stupid idiotic agruement. so "end of discussion" on that topic. and you really think the giants would have won to superbowls without eli manning? eli is elite end of story

  Yeah, I don't see Colt making that throw to MM. That was one of the most clutch throws in recent Super Bowls.
• BR1986FB

  royal_k;1077340 wrote:Yeah, I don't see Colt making that throw to MM. That was one of the most clutch throws in recent Super Bowls.

  Not in a million years. None of the Browns QB's could've made that throw and I think Wallace has the stronger arm of the two.
• like_that

  

  Rapistberger and Lebron.
• Y-Town Steelhound

  

  Eli is elite. 2 rings don't lie. Also the "only reason he won the MVP is because he's a QB" argument is hilarious. If that were the case, why does Ben have ZERO super bowl mvps?
• sleeper

  

  Y-Town Steelhound;1077488 wrote:Eli is elite. 2 rings don't lie. Also the "only reason he won the MVP is because he's a QB" argument is hilarious. If that were the case, why does Ben have ZERO super bowl mvps?

  Check the Alabama - LSU fraud championship game this year. The kicker should have won it, but it was given to the QB. The QB always wins, Big Ben is the exception not the rule.
• said_aouita

  

  John Starks.
• killer_ewok

  

  BR1986FB;1077316 wrote:TheRapist is also a TOP 15 draft pick, is as big as an offensive lineman (tough to bring down) and has a CANNON for an arm. Tell me you can say the SAME about Colt McCoy? I'm ALL for "staying the course" and "continuity" when the situation FITS but I'm not stupid enough to bet the farm on a "slight, weak armed 3rd round QB' (going into his THIRD year) when there will be better options in the draft/FA this year.
  
  I wish they would've drafted a QB in 1999 that they could've stuck with but they didn't. I don't like seeing changes year in and year out as much as anybody elese but you don't just "stay the course" for the sake of doing it.
  
  And part of the reason Pittsburgh has "stuck with" Roethlisberger and various coaches is that their ownership is cheap. Easier to pay player/coach through most of or all of their contract versus change.

  
  You can afford to be cheap when you make good decisions like the Rooney's almost always do. Smart money.