LeBron is finished talking about free agency
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thedynasty1998I disagree. And it's not just the marketability, it's the access he would have that he doesn't have in Cleveland.
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krazie45
What access? There's nothing he can't "access" in Cleveland....Nothingthedynasty1998 wrote: I disagree. And it's not just the marketability, it's the access he would have that he doesn't have in Cleveland. -
dat dude
Quick: Where does Tiger Woods live? NYC, LA, etc?thedynasty1998 wrote: I disagree. And it's not just the marketability, it's the access he would have that he doesn't have in Cleveland.
I think he does pretty well. The whole "big city" thing is a joke. -
jpake1I don't get involved in this discussion much. But here is my two long cents, to sort of stir the pot. Some say go to a bigger market for a chance at larger success. Others say stay in Cleveland because you're already the most marketable player, he doesn't need a new city to earn more. I've heard the examples of Manning doing well in a small market. I've heard the example of LBJ being more marketable than a few star athletes combined. I don't really have a point of view on this topic. But I will say this. Right now, I don't think it has anything to do with being in Cleveland or wherever. It has everything to do with LBJ being who he is. No matter where he is or where other guys are, he'll endorse more than any other player just because he's LBJ. LBJ makes the endorsement money, not the city. But can a city help him make more money? People talk about the Knicks, Nets, Lakers, Clippers, and Heat. Team Nike may have a bigger say than those teams. LBJ can name his contract. Do you think Nike would give him a bigger contract if he were in a bigger market of their liking? Nike gives bonuses to their athletes if they reach sales goals. According to reports, LBJ has never reached them while being in Cleveland. Do you think that trend would change if he moved to a bigger market? Does anybody think that Nike could give him a bigger contract if he picks a team of their liking, and that he'd be able to make morey money in the form of bonuses? Does anybody think that Nike could sweeten the deal for him enough to make up the money he'd lose in signing with another team? I don't know the answers to those, and frankly havn't thought about it much because I don't care. Just stirring the pot.
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krazie45Again, you cite "reports"...what/where are these "reports? LeBron has made millions of dollars for Nike since he signed that contract. He's their #2 athlete right now behind Tiger. Going to a big city isn't going to make Nike more money....LeBron isn't going to get a "bigger contract" going to a big city. This wasn't the case in 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, or even to a degree in 2000. But we're in 2009 now, where information technology has magnified 10-fold in the last 30 years.
I'm still waiting for a valid logical argument as to why LeBron would be better off going to a different city. So far I've refuted every one of these points, which are mostly backed by nothing more than opinion and vague responses, pretty easily. -
jpake1I think the pot is now very much stirred. Like I said, I don't have a precise point of view because I don't care whether he leaves Cleveland, goes to NY, or retires after this year. I played devil's advocate. In an odd way, I enjoy doing it to Cleveland fans since most are usually on edge about the only good thing to happen to them since Jim Brown. I mentioned that LBJ makes the money, not the city. But I also asked legit questions that those on the other spectrum would ask. Does anybody truthfully know the answers? Maybe, I don't know.
I have no idea about these reports. I read an article that mentioned it, thus why I said according to. Whether they're true or not, I don't know if that is something Nike would even come out and say-- "Hey world, we've got a new Jordan shoe coming out. PS, LeBron has failed to meet sale goals while in Cleveland!".
Where is your proof that he won't get more money by going elsewhere? Where is your proof that Nike wouldn't give him a bigger contract if he were in a market of their liking? True is, NONE of us have any proof yet because nothing has happened. So one should not be arrogant enough to speak as if they have the facts, when in fact, they're just opinions as of now (not saying that you are btw).
If I do have an opinion on this sort of matter it is this-- I don't think it's so much about going to a bigger market. I think it may just have something to do with going to a new market. That is a whole new section of people to buy your stuff. Look at it this way-- I imagine a lot of Cavs faithful are fans of Dwade in general, but they don't go out and buy his shoe or jersey. But if he came to Cleveland, most of the faithful would be buying some new stuff, and even some old Heat fans may buy his new Cavs jersey because they are still a fan of his. It's a bit like a player changing #'s for increase jersey sales. In that case, it's a new product for people to buy. In the other case, it's a new market to buy your product. -
j_crazylebron could live in Marietta and get the endorsement deals.
"lebron james here for pioneer chevrolet cadillac and chrysler jeep. when i'm done pounding it out on the court, i like to relax and cruise down pike street in my chevy aveo now only 6495 at the giant on the pike." -
Lhsfan42Lebron should have been done talking about free agency the minute he was asked the question the first time around. He is continuing to dissapoint me as a Cavs fan in regards to how he is handling this impending free agency situation.