ESPN's Pro Sports Franchise Rankings From 1-122

• GoPens

  

  Take this for what it's worth, but should make for some good discussion. Pittsburgh has 2 in the Top 10, the Steelers at #7 and the Penguins at #10.
  
  The worst, at #122. The Cincinnati Bengals. The second worst, The Washington Redskins. Not surprising for either considering the ownership for both. Shocked the Pirates weren't down there as well.
  
  http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2011/06/15/mag_best_in_sports/
  
  Didn't see the actual list so no idea where the other teams rank other than the top and bottom 10. Don't know why in the world the Lightning are ranked so high.
  
  Top 10
  
  NFL's Green Bay Packers (#1)
  NHL’s Tampa Bay Lightning (#2)
  NFL’s New Orleans Saints (#3)
  MLB’s Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim (#4)
  NBA’s San Antonio Spurs (#5)
  NBA’s Oklahoma City Thunder (6)
  NFL’s Pittsburgh Steelers (#7)
  MLB’s Colorado Rockies (#8)
  NBA’s Memphis Grizzlies (#9)
  NHL’s Pittsburgh Penguins (#10)
  
  Bottom 10
  
  NBA’s Detroit Pistons (#113)
  NHL's New York Islanders (#114)
  NHL’s Atlanta Thrashers (#115)
  NBA’s Toronto Raptors (#116)
  MLB's New York Mets (#117)
  NBA's Minnesota Timberwolves (#118)
  NBA’s Sacramento Kings (#119)
  NHL’s Toronto Maple Leafs (#120),
  NFL's Washington Redskins (#121)
  NFL's Cincinnati Bengals (#122)
• killer_ewok

  

  GoPens;803767 wrote:Take this for what it's worth, but should make for some good discussion. Pittsburgh has 2 in the Top 10, the Steelers at #7 and the Penguins at #10.
  
  The worst, at #122. The Cincinnati Bengals. The second worst, The Washington Redskins. Not surprising for either considering the ownership for both. Shocked the Pirates weren't down there as well.
  
  http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2011/06/15/mag_best_in_sports/
  
  Didn't see the actual list so no idea where the other teams rank. Probably need to buy the mag for that.

  The Pittsburgh Pirates ranked 70th out of 122!!! That's almost better than being .500!!!
• Heretic

  

  I'm surprised the Clippers aren't in the bottom two.
  
  Yes, they have Blake Griffin and a young core of talented players. They also still have Donald Sterling as their owner. He will find a way to fuck things up. He always does.
• killer_ewok

  

  Seriously though.....two Pittsburgh teams ranked in the top 10.....nice.
• gorocks99

  

  Here's the full list:
  
  http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings
• End of Line

  

  Maple Leafs should be higher.
• GoPens

  

  Thanks Gorocks. Too tired or too lazy to search for it
• GoPens

  

  The Pirates above the Yankees, Red Sox and the Bruins?? Really? And I'm a fan but geesh. Affordability has to be a factor there.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Because I'm lazy and didn't click the link, someone want to explain how they ranked this? How on earth do you judge a franchise? And then compare it to other franchises?
  
  Wins? Championships? Revenue? Community relations?
  
  All of the above?
• gorocks99

  

  SportsAndLady;803790 wrote:Because I'm lazy and didn't click the link, someone want to explain how they ranked this? How on earth do you judge a franchise? And then compare it to other franchises?
  
  Wins? Championships? Revenue? Community relations?
  
  All of the above?

  
  From the link:
  

  The eight major categories that make up the Ultimate Standings were created based on feedback from fans about what they want most from their favorite teams (click here for a more detailed account of the method to our madness.) The categories:
  
  Bang For The Buck (BNG): Wins during the past three years (regular season plus postseason) per revenues directly from fans, adjusted for league schedules.
  
  Fan Relations (FRL): Openness and consideration toward fans by players, coaches and management.
  
  Ownership (OWN): Honesty and loyalty to core players and local community.
  
  Affordability (AFF): Price of tickets, parking and concessions.
  
  Stadium Experience (STX): Quality of arena and game-day promotions as well as friendliness of environment.
  
  Players (PLA): Effort on the field and likability off it.
  
  Coaching (CCH): Strength of on-field leadership.
  
  Title Track (TTR): Championships already won or expected in the lifetime of current fans.

• GoPens

  

  Laughing at the ownership rankings. Out of 122, the Pirates are 119 and the Bengals 120. No shock there.
• Rotinaj

  

  I dont care what the criteria is. That top 10 is terrrrrrible.
• Ironman92

  

  The magazine does a good job of using all factors . We all know which franchises are the most successful...this adds in many other things.
• ts1227

  

  Indians ownership at 109, with only the most dysfunctional behind them
• Jughead

  

  Kansas City Royals...haven't been worth a damn since 1985. I'm not too sure how they aren't in the bottom 10.
• Classyposter58

  

  The Red Wings are the epitome of a great organization. The Pittsburgh Penguins are basically the NHL's version of General Motors...it wasn't too long ago they were bankrupt and about to sail outta town. How the hell are they at the top?
• Thinthickbigred

  GoPens;803767 wrote:Take this for what it's worth, but should make for some good discussion. Pittsburgh has 2 in the Top 10, the Steelers at #7 and the Penguins at #10.
  
  The worst, at #122. The Cincinnati Bengals. The second worst, The Washington Redskins. Not surprising for either considering the ownership for both. Shocked the Pirates weren't down there as well.
  
  http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2011/06/15/mag_best_in_sports/
  
  Didn't see the actual list so no idea where the other teams rank other than the top and bottom 10. Don't know why in the world the Lightning are ranked so high.
  
  Top 10
  
  NFL's Green Bay Packers (#1)
  NHL’s Tampa Bay Lightning (#2)
  NFL’s New Orleans Saints (#3)
  MLB’s Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim (#4)
  NBA’s San Antonio Spurs (#5)
  NBA’s Oklahoma City Thunder (6)
  NFL’s Pittsburgh Steelers (#7)
  MLB’s Colorado Rockies (#8)
  NBA’s Memphis Grizzlies (#9)
  NHL’s Pittsburgh Penguins (#10)
  
  Bottom 10
  
  NBA’s Detroit Pistons (#113)
  NHL's New York Islanders (#114)
  NHL’s Atlanta Thrashers (#115)
  NBA’s Toronto Raptors (#116)
  MLB's New York Mets (#117)
  NBA's Minnesota Timberwolves (#118)
  NBA’s Sacramento Kings (#119)
  NHL’s Toronto Maple Leafs (#120),
  NFL's Washington Redskins (#121) ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
  let me go into a room and draw up some crap Steelers are by far and away the best franchise..Only reason they put GB at #1 is because they are owned by the town a nice romantic notion . thay are up there but Pittsburgh should be way up and as much as I hate to say it my most hated team the Cowboys definitly should be in the top ten just for money purposes and value .. ownership stinks is all .. and Tampa Bay Lightning cmon Penguins had more fans in that building than they did.. Is Detroit Pistons that bad .They have numorous championships and a good fan base . Why isnt Oakland Raiders a bad franchise ? everything about them is bad .. fans dont come to the games and the ones that do try and kill the visitor fans The owner has dementia and they dont know if they are going back to LA... How about the Clippers .. they are in the worst catigory or did I miss that one ..Do the Bengals really deserve to be at the bottom ? They have a new stadium that fills with fans and have made the playoffs recently ..I dont know .....
  NFL's Cincinnati Bengals (#122)

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• Thinthickbigred

  the f###ing saints ahead of the Steelers ??? Let me slap somebody what kind of voodoo stuff is that ? who put a spell on them SI writers
• Thinthickbigred

  idiots from SI Ill never take them seriously ...They might as well be gossip columnists
• Thinthickbigred

  F######## Green Bay America's new team huh this is a romantic comedy
• BR1986FB

  Thinthickbigred;804913 wrote:F######## Green Bay America's new team huh this is a romantic comedy

  
  Pretty sure that Green Bay has more NFL titles than any other team.
• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;804933 wrote:Pretty sure that Green Bay has more NFL titles than any other team.

  
  Not to mention, their public ownership is fucking awesome.
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;804937 wrote:Not to mention, their public ownership is fucking awesome.

  
  Agreed...so they could "technically" be "America's Team" if owners were in various parts of the country (or do they have to be GB natives?)
• Little Danny

  

  In an informal poll taken by the Cincinnati Enquirer, Bengals ownerMike Brown the most hated sports figures in all of sports in Cincinnati (over the likes of Big Ben and others).
  
  http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=AB&Dato=20110620&Kategori=SPT02&Lopenr=106200802&Ref=PH
• OSH

  

  BR1986FB;804943 wrote:Agreed...so they could "technically" be "America's Team" if owners were in various parts of the country (or do they have to be GB natives?)

  Don't have to be Green Bay natives. Anyone could have bought a "share" when they sold them on a couple of different occasions.
  

  BR1986FB;804933 wrote:Pretty sure that Green Bay has more NFL titles than any other team.

  That's right...GO PACK GO!!!