The Finals

• #6.

  It was brought to my attention that there was some interest in what I had to say. Yes this is SQ/The Boss.
  
  First of all, let me start by saying that I have not read any of the conversation here surrounding the Finals. So I have no response to anything anyone has said. One thing that I know has probably been talked about is my self ban. Basically, I'm done with this site. I don't have time for it anymore and basically, I can't win here. Doesn't matter what I say, I'll never have credibility here again BECAUSE I'm still a LeBron fan. Cite the "collapse thread" all you want, it's because I'm a LeBron fan. I will fully admit, the self ban was literally just to rile everyone up and I'm sure it was talked about--and my intention was to come back on after the Finals was over at start a thread that literally contained nothing but laughter. Just "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"x100. It obviously didn't work out that way.
  
  I must say, before I talk about what happened, I was harder on LeBron than anyone during this series. If any of you could have been watching the games with me, you would have seen it. He was garbage, plain and simple. There were factors that contributed that I'll get into later, but the bottom line is that he was trash.
  
  One thing I want to address before we get into the results of the games, is the mocking Dirk thing. One big reason I want to mention this is because I HATE the media. Not just the sports media, all media and I have for a long time. And I'm smart enough to know that this was a big topic on this site. LeBron and Wade did NOT mock Dirk. They mocked the media, and rightfully so. The part that pisses me off is that they get a response from Dirk and paste that up all over the place. And then they get a response to the reaction from Wade and he says EXACTLY what I assumed they meant when I first heard what they did. But the media omits that, because they clearly don't want to make themselves look bad. But this provided a REALLY good example of the media bullshit that I'll talk about later in this post, if I remember.
  
  Now, on to the basketball.
  
  First and foremost. MAJOR props to Dallas. They won the series, the Heat did not lose it. They flat out BEAT Miami. I do believe that the better team wins most of the time, and I do believe that Dallas was the better team. Miami has the talent, but they have no discipline and no offense. The Mavs had the right ingredients to take down the Heat, AND they executed to near perfection. Carlisle coached circles around Spo. Dirk played well and his teammates stepped up and played great basketball.
  
  Now onto the Heat. Great season. I said prior to the start of the season that as a Heat fan, a Big 3 fan, a LeBron fan, I did not expect a title in year 1 regardless of their goals. I said I would pick them to win, because I won't pick against my team when I think they're good enough, but I didn't expect them to win it all. I thought it would take a year and I still think that they will be the champs next season. BUT, a lot of things have to change. I'm not saying they need to overreact and make big roster moves, that would be a big mistake. But they need to do something. Spo has to go. They need a coach that commands respect. I don't even think Spo is a bad coach, but every game was like a replay--he did not have their attention. Their biggest change needs to be a PG. Let's face it, they have the Big 3/Haslem/Miller locked up for like 5 years--that's a better base than any other team in the league can build around for the next 5 years. But they need a consistent PG. They need a guy who they can trust to bring the ball up the floor, not turn it over and get the offense started. Nothing special, but Bibby sucks and Chalmers is too out of control. I think Chalmers can be good, but we'll see. And I just hit on maybe the most important point--they need an offense. Their offense is atrocious.
  
  About LeBron: trash. I have no excuses for the lack of effort. I'll sound like a homer here, but I am a homer and most of you are haters so I'll get all kinds of shit for the next few comments. BUT, one thing that led to this: fatigue. Until LAST NIGHT the dude didn't come out of the 2nd half of a game since early in the Boston series. He was playing Wilt minutes. That takes a toll, no matter who you are. Another thing: officiating. Read this line very carefully: it did not cost them the series and is not an excuse for them losing the Finals. Got it? Dallas flat out beat them. But it played a part in why LeBron was not LeBron. I don't care what anyone says, I expect NONE of you haters to agree with me. But I'll still down with ANYONE who wants to objectively watch the tapes and I'll show you. First of all, his jumper was garbage. Aiming, not shooting. Scared to miss which causes him to miss--it's frustrating to watch. But to everyone who just wants him to drive it in and dunk it every time, you're a fool. Do you even watch the games? He had nowhere to go. Dallas would NOT let him beat them. Double teams, walls built. They sagged off and made him a shooter--problem is he couldn't get himself going because he couldn't get to the line. His teammates didn't help him too much either and that's the lack of offensive strategy. As a team they all passed on so many wide open looks. They didn't let him play his game, that's a big credit to Dallas--and they took what the refs gave them. But LeBron got HOSED by the officials. I really think that took him out of his game, that played a big part in making him passive and not looking for his shot. No one in the media will say this because it's just looked at as an excuse. But if they won't blow the whistle that changes how you have to play the game--it's not an excuse, it's a reason. Save the shit, I expect hardly any of you to agree. The reason is you're haters--you may think you're objective but you aren't. I'm a LeBron homer and I'm more objective than most of you. That's all that needs to be said about that.
  
  I'm not giving him a pass, even as a fan of his. No matter what it is, you try. If it's the officials, you put your fucking head down and you MAKE them blow the whistle or foul you out. And you absolutely DO NOT let it dictate how you play defense...and he did. He was awful, as bad as I've seen him.
  
  Now let me address the media and the fan base in general. The fact that there is this much backlash/hate speaks to how great LeBron is. First of all, can the Jordan comparisons stop? Personally, I never liked those. He isn't Jordan, he's LeBron. He isn't Magic, he isn't anyone else. He is his own player. But let's talk about the BULLSHIT double standards that go on with the media and generate a lot of the bullshit that people spew about LeBron. First of all, he is under more pressure and a bigger microscope than any professional athlete in history. He is the first to have to go through this type of scrutiny in the Facebook, Twitter, mega media world. You want to compare him to Jordan? What did Jordan do during his most scrutinized moment? Under maybe a TENTH of the pressure in the mid-90's that a guy his today in 2011, he RETIRED. He didn't shrink in the 4th, he didn't play like trash--he flat out quit. He went and played baseball.
  
  Need more? LeBron is trash. But "Tragic" Johnson isn't. You know why? Because hindsight is 20/20. He won rings in the end, the "Tragic" nickname went away. If you need to go look at how bad guys like Bird and Magic played at certain points in their career, then look it up. Kobe was statistically worse than LeBron through his for 10 Finals games. But he's a great champion. He didn't ride Shaq's coat tails, but LeBron is Robin. Miami says they want to win titles in the preseason. They express that goal to their fans. They're arrogant, as if they're supposed to have a goal other than championship. But Dallas posts pictures of the trophy in their lockers, they have the same goal, but they aren't arrogant. LeBron is an arrogant prick for saying they want to win multiple rings. But Jason Terry has balls of steel for getting the trophy tattooed on him. LeBron plays like shit, D-Wade plays worse--headline: LeBron is a bum. LeBron plays like shit, D-Wade plays great--headline: LeBron really is Robin. Dirk plays like shit, Barea and Terry win the game for the Mavs--headline: Dirk, MVP!
  
  The biggest issue that I have with the media is that so many of you base your whole discussion around what is said by this analyst or that one, this writer or that one, rarely using your own brain to think for yourself. You ALLOW them to control the conversation, and really, they're just trying to "sell papers". The double standards with the Heat are the WORST I've ever seen. Sports media RIGHT NOW is the epitome of how terrible the media in our country has become. I miss the days when I could turn on Sportscenter, see the top 10 and a few scores and that was it. Now all of a sudden they turn into a soap box for some dude with no credibility to spout his mouth off. And since he was on ESPN the vast majority of our stupid populous thinks that what he says is gold. It's mind blowing.
• #6.

  Wilbon article
  
  That is a GREAT article by Wilbon. Touches on a lot of the things that I've talked about. The overreaction is ridiculous. Judging his legacy on every play is ridiculous. It all gets bigger and bigger and bigger and it's INSANE. And it's got to him. I can't say that I'm surprised, I wish he was the kind of guy that wasn't bothered by it--but that pressure has got to him. However, I fully expect him to find a way to get by that. He's been the kind of guy who has worked tirelessly on his game and improved his weak spots every year. Now, he needs to work on his mind. He'll be back, the Heat will be back, and they will win it. Enjoy talking shit while you still can, haters gonna hate.
  
  You likely won't see me around this site, and it is for personal reasons--it's funny that people think I care what they think of me around here. I really don't. But I did want the opportunity to throw my 2 cents in about the series and create an atmosphere in which people can lay into me for my team losing. Have at it, I probably deserve it. But like all you people screaming "karma" at LeBron, what goes around comes around. I'll have my day to smile and talk shit to all of you soon enough.
  
  P.S.--You Cleveland fans are the most pathetic fan base I've ever seen in sports. I understand not wanting LeBron to win a title. I do not understand rooting for another team to win a title. And don't say you were rooting against LeBron, not FOR the Mavs. 95% of you were rooting FOR the Mavs, rooting FOR another team to win a title that you'll never sniff. That's fucking pathetic, yet it's a very good example of Cleveland in general. I think they should hang a championship banner in the Q with the Mavs logo on it--it'll be as close as you ever get.
• like_that

  

  lol at the new username, and lol at you "leaving" again. What is this now, your 5th exit? Also lol at saying you have no time for this site, yet you possibly typed out the longest post this site has seen. You are a joke, and we all hope you live up to your word and stay away.
• gorocks99

  

  tl;dr
• #6.

  Wilbon article
  
  That is a GREAT article by Wilbon. Touches on a lot of the things that I've talked about. The overreaction is ridiculous. Judging his legacy on every play is ridiculous. It all gets bigger and bigger and bigger and it's INSANE. And it's got to him. I can't say that I'm surprised, I wish he was the kind of guy that wasn't bothered by it--but that pressure has got to him. However, I fully expect him to find a way to get by that. He's been the kind of guy who has worked tirelessly on his game and improved his weak spots every year. Now, he needs to work on his mind. He'll be back, the Heat will be back, and they will win it. Enjoy talking shit while you still can, haters gonna hate.
  
  You likely won't see me around this site, and it is for personal reasons--it's funny that people think I care what they think of me around here. I really don't. But I did want the opportunity to throw my 2 cents in about the series and create an atmosphere in which people can lay into me for my team losing. Have at it, I probably deserve it. But like all you people screaming "karma" at LeBron, what goes around comes around. I'll have my day to smile and talk shit to all of you soon enough.
  
  P.S.--You Cleveland fans are the most pathetic fan base I've ever seen in sports. I understand not wanting LeBron to win a title. I do not understand rooting for another team to win a title. And don't say you were rooting against LeBron, not FOR the Mavs. 95% of you were rooting FOR the Mavs, rooting FOR another team to win a title that you'll never sniff. That's fucking pathetic, yet it's a very good example of Cleveland in general. I think they should hang a championship banner in the Q with the Mavs logo on it--it'll be as close as you ever get.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  LOL at you thinking anyone cares what you have to say.
• Laley23

  

  There is a simple solution to not getting painted by the douche brush of the media.....stop being a douche. THAT has NOTHING to do with his play.
  
  ...and Im not sure you can consider someone retiring after 3 straight titles as quitting.
• #6.

  Laley23;800648 wrote:There is a simple solution to not getting painted by the douche brush of the media.....stop being a douche. THAT has NOTHING to do with his play.
  
  ...and Im not sure you can consider someone retiring after 3 straight titles as quitting.

  
  It has everything to do with his play. If he wins, he's a great champion and none of the other stuff is even talked about. And Jordan was going to face a media BARRAGE for gambling and he quit and let it go away before he came back. So, yes, you can consider that quitting. Because he wasn't going to be able to deal with that shit.
• #6.

  http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=wilbon%2F110611
  
  That is a GREAT article by Wilbon. Touches on a lot of the things that I've talked about. The overreaction is ridiculous. Judging his legacy on every play is ridiculous. It all gets bigger and bigger and bigger and it's INSANE. And it's got to him. I can't say that I'm surprised, I wish he was the kind of guy that wasn't bothered by it--but that pressure has got to him. However, I fully expect him to find a way to get by that. He's been the kind of guy who has worked tirelessly on his game and improved his weak spots every year. Now, he needs to work on his mind. He'll be back, the Heat will be back, and they will win it. Enjoy talking shit while you still can, haters gonna hate.
  
  You likely won't see me around this site, and it is for personal reasons--it's funny that people think I care what they think of me around here. I really don't. But I did want the opportunity to throw my 2 cents in about the series and create an atmosphere in which people can lay into me for my team losing. Have at it, I probably deserve it. But like all you people screaming "karma" at LeBron, what goes around comes around. I'll have my day to smile and talk shit to all of you soon enough.
  
  P.S.--You Cleveland fans are the most pathetic fan base I've ever seen in sports. I understand not wanting LeBron to win a title. I do not understand rooting for another team to win a title. And don't say you were rooting against LeBron, not FOR the Mavs. 95% of you were rooting FOR the Mavs, rooting FOR another team to win a title that you'll never sniff. That's fucking pathetic, yet it's a very good example of Cleveland in general. I think they should hang a championship banner in the Q with the Mavs logo on it--it'll be as close as you ever get.
• wes_mantooth

  

  gorocks99;800642 wrote:tl;dr

  
  yep, I tried...but failed(just like Lebron)
• I Wear Pants

  Yeah, the refs threw him off his game because they were homering him. Or maybe he didn't get fouls because he never went to the basket or did anything.
  
  And lol at you thinking anyone that thinks Lebron is a royal douche has been tricked by the media.
  
  Yeah but Jordan was also a winner. People forget about other things if you start winning. Just like people won't give a shit about Tiger banging the entire female population once he starts winning again. Winning forgives everything. Losing and then basically saying "haters gonna hate" will not remove the douche label from Lebron.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  #6.;800636 wrote: Basically, I'm done with this site. .

  
  Then stop posting.
• Iliketurtles

  

  You know I would go into everything about his post and make him look like a fool but I just want him to live by his word to stop posting and go away.
• I Wear Pants

  And why do you need to request a self ban to "leave"? Just fucking stop coming here if you don't want to. Really easy.
• BR1986FB

  Raw Dawgin' it;800655 wrote:Then stop posting.

  
  He's taking his "talents" to sell grandpappy's mini cranes or whatever the Hell those things were.
• SportsAndLady

  

  #6.;800636 wrote:and basically, I can't win here.

  
  I'm starting to think maybe you actually are Lebron
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;800674 wrote:I'm starting to think maybe you actually are Lebron

  
  With a self chosen name of "The Boss", the ego is definitely there.
• KR1245

  

  Did anybody actually read this entire thing?
• sleeper

  

  tl;dr
• LJ

  

  
• BR1986FB

  LJ;800689 wrote:

  
  +1
• Laley23

  

  #6.;800650 wrote:It has everything to do with his play. If he wins, he's a great champion and none of the other stuff is even talked about. And Jordan was going to face a media BARRAGE for gambling and he quit and let it go away before he came back. So, yes, you can consider that quitting. Because he wasn't going to be able to deal with that ****.

  
  And we never landed on the moon....
• I Wear Pants

  KR1245;800684 wrote:Did anybody actually read this entire thing?

  
  Yes. I read really quickly so I did. Wouldn't do it again though.
• hoops23

  

  I skimmed through, but the parts I did see were blaming the media and "Tragic Magic"..
  
  First off on the Tragic Magic thing, Magic had ALREADY won a title PRIOR to being called Tragic Magic... I believe the nickname Tragic Magic derived in the 1983/84 season. Which would have already made him a 2X champ.
  
  As for blaming the media, you're an idiot. LeBron and Wade shouldn't do ANYTHING but play basketball. Instead, LBJ kept opening his mouth and tweeting idiotic crap. Wade knew damn well he was mocking Dirk. That's why he did it. You can;t say you do something, then blame it on the media because you did it. He's got to be smarter than that, at least I'd hope?
  
  Either way, GTFO.
• Laley23

  

  #6.;800650 wrote:It has everything to do with his play. If he wins, he's a great champion and none of the other stuff is even talked about.

  
  Not true. I think Kobe is a POS for cheating on his wife. I think Big Ben is a fucktard. etc, etc. I think LeBron is a douche for how he handles himself and the stuff he does off the court. On the court, he is a tremendous talent, but hasnt lived up to it in crunch time yet. I assume he will before he retires, and I will still think he is a grade A Doucher.
  
  I will give you that a LOT of his off the court shit stems from his on court struggles, but that is not why I dont like him.