William "The Refrigerator" Perry......not good
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Skyhook79His Alcoholism was ignored by many people for too long early in his life. I hope he can beat the demon of alcoholism.
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Ironman92looks like he's beyond help.......your 1st sentence is right on though.
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Fly4FunSkyhook79;669968 wrote:His Alcoholism was ignored by many people for too long early in his life. I hope he can beat the demon of alcoholism.
Not a fan of your first statement as it seems to put the onus of responsibility on other people and not the individual. His alcoholism was and continues to be ignored by himself. -
Ironman92"He" could be part of "many"
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Fly4FunIronman92;670021 wrote:"He" could be part of "many"
But it's still spreading the blame around. First and foremost this is his problem that he refused to and still refuses to recognize. Don't place the blame on others first. -
Ironman92100% agree it his problem and he is 100% responsible for his actions.
That all being said....he had MANY people around him that saw what he was doing.....and at least during his playing days did nothing to stop it. It's not their fault at all......but sometimes your friends and family help out. Not saying anything would've worked as later when he was helped he eventually went back to his ways.
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gerb131I knew he had lost major weight didn't know he was back to 400 already..
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Skyhook79Fly4Fun;669975 wrote:Not a fan of your first statement as it seems to put the onus of responsibility on other people and not the individual. His alcoholism was and continues to be ignored by himself.
I said "His Alcoholism" and wasn't passing the blame on to others, only pointing out that many "friends" saw the road he was going down and didn't try and intercede, they just hoped he would Outgrow it. I would hope my friends would love and care about me enough to at least try and hope that i would do the same. -
vball10setthe article's too frickin' long--it needs to be "Readers Digest-ed"
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Ironman92lol....if I can get through it about anyone can
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LeonardoThis piece on him was on ESPN the other day.. It's rather sad. He was down to 180 pounds when he passed out at his house. Thankfully, someone came over and if they hadn't, he'd have probably died. I hope he can get over this and live a healthy, happy life.
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vball10setIronman92;670120 wrote:lol....if I can get through it about anyone can
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I don't understand this. One, who is to say that no one tried to help him? Two, his wife hammered him to the point he went to rehab and the team made sure he got there. The article refers to the fact that his wife "nagged" about it for a long time. You have no idea who else or to what extent anyone "tried" to help him or how much of this help he laughed off, refused, etc.Skyhook79;670074 wrote:I said "His Alcoholism" and wasn't passing the blame on to others, only pointing out that many "friends" saw the road he was going down and didn't try and intercede, they just hoped he would Outgrow it. I would hope my friends would love and care about me enough to at least try and hope that i would do the same. -
Skyhook79enigmaax;671976 wrote:I don't understand this. One, who is to say that no one tried to help him? Two, his wife hammered him to the point he went to rehab and the team made sure he got there. The article refers to the fact that his wife "nagged" about it for a long time. You have no idea who else or to what extent anyone "tried" to help him or how much of this help he laughed off, refused, etc.
Did you even read the entire article? By the time his wife "Hammered" and "Nagged" him to go to rehab he was already a full blown Alcoholic. The interceding needed to be done when they watched him down 2 cases of beer for entertainment and the when the Bears found out about his heavy drinking they Filed it away.