Trio Comparison: Heat vs. Celtics

• Y-Town Steelhound

  

  The points already made have been dead on but I'll add a few more:
  
  -KG/Allen didn't have a 1 hour TV special announcing they were going to Boston
  -Neither the Timberwolves nor the Sonics had the best record in the NBA the past two years
  -They're generally more likable guys. KG rubs some people the wrong way, but nobody is hating on Jesus Shuttlesworth
  -They went to the Celtics....a team with probably the richest history in the NBA. Boston isn't exactly vacation destination #1. You can tell they went there with the primary focus of winning championships, not partying and being celebrities. Not to mention their fans actually go to the games.
• OQB

  

  thedynasty1998;654195 wrote:What does that have anything to do with? I understand if people don't like Bosh, but you can't criticize his production this year.

  
  He wants no part of being a big man in the paint.....he doesn't want to play defense...and he thinks he is a lot better than he is. Basically he is an over-rated 6'10" shooter that when given an open look can knock down a shot. He is averaging 18 a game because guys are focusing on Wade and James so he is getting open looks....but he is nothing compared to what Gasol is to the Lakers. Gasol will and likes to do the dirty work, and for that I would choose him over Bosh.
• karen lotz

  

  OrrvilleQB;654402 wrote: He is averaging 18 a game because guys are focusing on Wade and James so he is getting open looks...

  Can you explain his career scoring average of 20.1 a game? He was largely a one man team in Toronto (which you already pointed out), and now only scores because teams focus on LBJ and Wade. You can't have it both ways. Pick one argument.
• Y-Town Steelhound

  

  Here's my thing with Bosh:
  
  I think he's a very good player, but not a great player. Only 1 All-NBA 2nd team, 3-8 in the playoffs, not a good defender, not an elite rebounder, multiple time all star mainly because of lack of elite big men in the East for a while. He's a guy that fills up the stat sheet nice but he's not a guy I want with the ball in his hands in crunch time. Now his role for the Heat works well for him, he's the 3rd option. However, when you look back at the best big men of the generation, I don't think he cracks the top 10. He's similar to a Lamar Odom in my opinion.
  
  Simply put, he's not a guy you can build a championship team around but he's a good piece to a championship team. As far as big 3's go, when you look at the historical greats (Johnson-Kareem-Worthy, Bird-Mchale-Parish) you're talking about the all time greats there. Even the Celtics big 3 are all better players at their positions than Bosh. Like I said, very good player but not great.
• thedynasty1998

  

  OrrvilleQB;654402 wrote:He wants no part of being a big man in the paint.....he doesn't want to play defense...and he thinks he is a lot better than he is. Basically he is an over-rated 6'10" shooter that when given an open look can knock down a shot. He is averaging 18 a game because guys are focusing on Wade and James so he is getting open looks....but he is nothing compared to what Gasol is to the Lakers. Gasol will and likes to do the dirty work, and for that I would choose him over Bosh.

  
  Is Gasol better? Yea, he probably is. But there is not that separation that many want to believe. And he's a finesse big man. He always has been and always will be. You don't have to like his game, but you have to respect his production.
  
  Guys like Dirk and Durant don't get criticized for being "shooters". Bosh is a lean post player, so he has adapted his game to take advantage of his strengths and he should be ashamed of that?