MLB Hall of Fame Class of 2011

• gorocks99

  

  Announcement is today at 2pm.
  
  Who do you think is getting in this year? Does Blyleven get in? Should he? One has to think Alomar is a shoe-in this year after missing last year.
• karen lotz

  

  Alomar and Blyleven were elected.
• osu45804

  

  Larkin got 62%
• gorocks99

  

  Those are the two I figured would make it.
• vball10set

  nice to see Bert "be home " Blyleven finally get in--kudos to both guys
• Manhattan Buckeye

  Alomar was a no brainer. Bagwell deserved it but perhaps the PED issue hurt him despite no evidence that he participated.
  
  Blyleven deserves to be in the hall of very good. Great stats, long career...yet people back in the day didn't even know about him.
• Ty Webb

  

  Roberto Alomar getting in is a fucking joke
• CinciX12

  

  Ty Webb;627052 wrote:Roberto Alomar getting in is a fucking joke

  
  Que? He got the most votes. He was the highlight of the class. He had 10 gold gloves for god's sake.
• Ty Webb

  

  Has nothing to do with his playing ability...
• CinciX12

  

  Ty Webb;627062 wrote:Has nothing to do with his playing ability...

  
  What are gold gloves given for then if not for playing ability?
• justincredible

  

  Larkin is a lock for 2012. An EXTREMELY weak first year eligible class (Bernie Williams is the best of the bunch) will help out a bit.
• killdeer

  

  Blyleven...well-deserved.
• Laley23

  

  vball10set;627027 wrote:nice to see Bert "be home by eleven" Blyeven finally get in--kudos to both guys

  
  It's Bert "be home" Blyleven.
  
  SMH at screwing up the nickname
• Sonofanump

  I guess I still do not get Jack Morris not being in. Huge oversight IMHO.
• Ironman92

  

  Good to see Blyleven get...his curveball was just not fair....what he have 3800 K and 58 shoutouts....decent
• Ironman92

  

  Alomar was one of my all-time favorite players. IMO th best defensive 2nd baseman ever, one of the best baserunners I've ever seen and a very very good hitter.
  
  As for his run in with the spitting...he and the ump are close friends and he did a fundraiser for numerous years following to raise money for the umps sick kid.
• karen lotz

  

  As far as Alomar goes, I heard on the radio today that his range factor was below average every year he played. He was great when he could get to balls, he just didn't get to that many.
• Little Danny

  

  karen lotz;627390 wrote:As far as Alomar goes, I heard on the radio today that his range factor was below average every year he played. He was great when he could get to balls, he just didn't get to that many.

  
  I actually heard he got to a lot of balls. (Drum-roll please--- tish!)
• karen lotz

  

  Little Danny;627392 wrote:I actually heard he got to a lot of balls. (Drum-roll please--- tish!)

  
  Could explain this...
  

  Ironman92;627238 wrote:Alomar was one of my all-time favorite players.

• Ironman92

  

  If his range factor went down each year.......shouldn't his SB have done the same.
  
  Throw whatever stats you want for fielding....Alomar was a baseball player....one of the very best all-around players...and an unbelievable fielder.
• Ironman92

  

  His range factor not only didn't go down every year but his range factor per game and per 9 innings was better from age 28-32 than it was from age 23-26.....it's also probably not a coincidence that from age 23-26 he was the best 2nd baseman in baseball for the Toronto Blue Jays....playing on some of the fastest turf anywhere.......before and after he was on grass......range factor factor...I'd say yes.
• karen lotz

  

  I didn't say it went down every year. Compared to all second baseman, his range factor was below average every year.
  
  I'm not saying he isn't a HOFer or anything like that, just sharing something I heard that I wouldn't have guessed.
• Ironman92

  

  I just don't buy it....gotta be a flaw in the RF stat which I never really liked. Alomar had incredible instincts was incredibly intellignet on where players hit and was a tremendous base stealer so he obviously had at least slightly better than average speed.
  
  My bad on the reading comprehension......but turf lowered his RF compared to the grass??? what's up there? is the RF like the HR per AB? Many things go into it.
  
  
  Doesn't matter......nothing will change my mind. I watched it for over a decade. HOF....good enough.
• darbypitcher22

  

  Glad to see Blylevyn finally get in
• karen lotz

  

  Ironman92;627461 wrote:I just don't buy it....gotta be a flaw in the RF stat which I never really liked. Alomar had incredible instincts was incredibly intellignet on where players hit and was a tremendous base stealer so he obviously had at least slightly better than average speed.
  
  My bad on the reading comprehension......but turf lowered his RF compared to the grass??? what's up there? is the RF like the HR per AB? Many things go into it.
  
  
  Doesn't matter......nothing will change my mind. I watched it for over a decade. HOF....good enough.

  
  I would think the turf would lower his range factor. A faster surface means the ball gets on him or past him faster. If the ball is getting through holes quicker, wouldn't that make it more difficult for him to get to them, which would then technically mean his range suffers? It might not be the most accurate thing due to the difference between turf and grass, but it is what I heard.