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Kobe and the two-time defending NBA Champions vs LeBron and the Miami Superfriends

  • lhslep134
    You all are stupid if you think Phil Jackson coached like he wanted to win.

    Players wanting to win DOES NOT equal coach wanting to win. The players definitely wanted to win, but Phil:

    A. didn't call a timeout during any of the runs
    B. didn't pair his 7 footers together when the biggest issue on Miami is lack of interior presence


    Again, Phil is the best coach in the game, and he certainly didn't coach like it yesterday.


    And for the record, I DESPISE the Lakers, but I think people are making way too big of a deal of the Miami win.
  • Ironman92
    So a guy with 11 NBA Championships and one of the most intelligent individuals involved in the NBA did not coach it up because he doesn't like playing on Christmas and sucking enough years in a row will keep them from being on TV on Dec 25th.......even though they are the NBA Champions and are one of the greatest and interesting franchises with one of the best players ever...AND they are increasing the number of teams that play on Christmas.

    He may not have coached to win....which would be assinine but he is known for letting his teams play without calling timeouts.

    There is no excuse for how the Lakers played yesterday. Shoes are far more improtant.
  • karen lotz
    You all are stupid if you think Phil Jackson coached like he wanted to win.

    Players wanting to win DOES NOT equal coach wanting to win. The players definitely wanted to win, but Phil:

    A. didn't call a timeout during any of the runs
    B. didn't pair his 7 footers together when the biggest issue on Miami is lack of interior presence


    Again, Phil is the best coach in the game, and he certainly didn't coach like it yesterday.


    And for the record, I DESPISE the Lakers, but I think people are making way too big of a deal of the Miami win.
    Bynum and Gasol weren't on the court together? That's odd I distinctly remember Bynum throwing an oop to Gasol from the 3 point line. It did work some, but right after that play Miami called a timeout, made an adjustment, and then were able to handle it. So your point is inaccurate and your post if filled with ignorance (not really but that's your favorite line).
  • karen lotz
    Also point A is also a poor one, Jackson very rarely takes timeouts when an opposing team is on an extended run. He prefers his team show some mental toughness and finds a way to right the ship on its own. You should really watch more basketball if you didn't know that.
  • lhslep134
    karen lotz;613823 wrote:Bynum and Gasol weren't on the court together? That's odd I distinctly remember Bynum throwing an oop to Gasol from the 3 point line. It did work some, but right after that play Miami called a timeout, made an adjustment, and then were able to handle it. So your point is inaccurate and your post if filled with ignorance (not really but that's your favorite line).
    I'll rephrase point B. For an extended period of time.

    And while Phil doesn't do that during the regular season (the timeout calling) he does do it in the playoffs when he actually cares about winning.

    No ignorance ;)
  • Sage
    *shrug*
  • justincredible
    lhslep134;613890 wrote:I'll rephrase point B. For an extended period of time.

    And while Phil doesn't do that during the regular season (the timeout calling) he does do it in the playoffs when he actually cares about winning.

    No ignorance ;)

    So he doesn't care about winning at all in the regular season?
  • karen lotz
    justincredible;614163 wrote:So he doesn't care about winning at all in the regular season?

    No, when he cares about it in the regular season, the Lakers win. When he doesn't care, they get blown out in consecutive home games.
  • lhslep134
    justincredible;614163 wrote:So he doesn't care about winning at all in the regular season?

    No, he doesn't care for playing on Christmas.

    Besides even from a basketball standpoint, why the hell would you play your trump card in a regular season game and give Miami film to guard it better?
  • thedynasty1998
    lhslep134;614926 wrote:No, he doesn't care for playing on Christmas.

    Besides even from a basketball standpoint, why the hell would you play your trump card in a regular season game and give Miami film to guard it better?

    Home court advantage. They try to win every single game. The Christmas Day thing is getting blown way out of proportion.

    Did Miami have more to prove? Absolutely. But let's quit acting like the Lakers just didn't care.
  • Standoff22
    Despite the lakers loss come playoff time they will win it all.
  • lhslep134
    thedynasty1998;614935 wrote:Home court advantage. They try to win every single game. The Christmas Day thing is getting blown way out of proportion.

    Did Miami have more to prove? Absolutely. But let's quit acting like the Lakers just didn't care.

    The Lakers did care dude I've said that before but Phil Jackson didn't. And who controls the rotations and timeouts? The coach or the team??

    Hm okay that's that what I thought.
  • Ironman92
    What's this damn trump card?

    Had they not played like horse shit the very game before in Minnesota some of this could be agreed with.
  • Hb31187
    lhslep134;615315 wrote:The Lakers did care dude I've said that before but Phil Jackson didn't. And who controls the rotations and timeouts? The coach or the team??

    Hm okay that's that what I thought.

    So the coach not caring is what lost them the game? Lol gimme a break
  • sportswizuhrd
    Skyhook79;613573 wrote:Phil hates playing on Christmas Day and he never called 1 timeout during any of miami's runs.
    He is probally hoping with each bad performance on Christmas they will take his team off the Christmas day schedule.
    Wasn't that what Phil was all about in Chicago(might still be)? Not calling a TO when the opponent is on a run and letting his team play through it?
  • karen lotz
    sportswizuhrd;615351 wrote:Wasn't that what Phil was all about in Chicago(might still be)? Not calling a TO when the opponent is on a run and letting his team play through it?
    Yes, but that's apparently only true during the regular season when he doesn't give a shit about winning. He actually coaches during the playoffs. :rolleyes:
  • sportswizuhrd
    karen lotz;615353 wrote:Yes, but that's apparently only true during the regular season when he doesn't give a shit about winning. He actually coaches during the playoffs. :rolleyes:

    Posted that right after read skyhook's post, then I learned he only coaches during the playoffs.....Why doesnt he take a month or two off then? It could help his health issues some.
  • karen lotz
    sportswizuhrd;615357 wrote:Why doesnt he take a month or two off then?
    Probably because he actually does care. :)


    And I do think it has been talked about that he would not go on long road trips as its the constant travel that he really doesn't like. That could have just been an idea thrown around when the Lakers were trying to entice him to delay retirement, not sure.
  • thedynasty1998
    Phil Jackson doesn't care if they win or not on Christmas day? I've heard it all now.
  • trep14
    I wouldn't go as far as to say that the Lakers and Phil Jackson wanted to lose on Christmas Day, nor would I say that they don't care that they lost at all. That being said, I wouldn't call this loss a big deal at all. I remember last year the Lakers had a complete meltdown on Christmas Day against the Cavs, to the point that the fans were throwing things on the court in disgust. That game didn't seem to have too much of an impact on the Lakers last year.
  • Nate
    Survey says......



    Thaddeus Gibson is staying for the 2010 season.
  • thedynasty1998
    trep14;615511 wrote:I wouldn't go as far as to say that the Lakers and Phil Jackson wanted to lose on Christmas Day, nor would I say that they don't care that they lost at all. That being said, I wouldn't call this loss a big deal at all. I remember last year the Lakers had a complete meltdown on Christmas Day against the Cavs, to the point that the fans were throwing things on the court in disgust. That game didn't seem to have too much of an impact on the Lakers last year.

    Completely agree with this. Miami still feels they have something to prove and they had this game circled once the schedules were released. The Lakers probably treated it as just another game.
  • karen lotz
    Except half of the team had on those hideous shoes (yes I'm aware that is more of a marketing thing by Nike). Didn't Fisher have some quote in the days leading up to the game about how playing on Christmas means you are important to the league and it is special? Kobe was also quoted prior to the Milwaukee debacle on Tuesday that if they lose that game, it ruins what would be special about the Christmas game, etc?
  • Commander of Awesome
    LMAO, what an idiot.

    LeBron Denies Supporting Contraction
    "LeBron James says he wasn't sure what the word "contraction" meant."
    http://realgm.com/#ixzz19QZPEjk7
  • thedynasty1998
    Commander of Awesome;615683 wrote:LMAO, what an idiot.

    LeBron Denies Supporting Contraction
    "LeBron James says he wasn't sure what the word "contraction" meant."
    http://realgm.com/#ixzz19QZPEjk7
    Wrong thread?