How Many Games Will The Cavs Win Next Season?

• Rotinaj

  

  krazie45;419186 wrote:The rumor is going for Al Jefferson with the trade exception. Team could easily be 40-45 wins if that happens.
  
  Anyone saying less than 30 has no idea what they're talking about. If they were that bad they wouldn't have won 60 games in back to back years even with LeBron. He is obviously a great player but you're saying he's a difference of 30-40 wins? If that's the case than the Heat should have no problem winning 70 next year.

  
  The Cavs were terrible w/out Lebron this year. And adding 30,7,7 to a team could be(and we will find out soon enough) the difference in 30 games. They have no scoring left and will be LUCKY to win 35. Whoever thinks they are a playoff team is straight up insane.
• jordo212000

  

  Rotinaj;419276 wrote:They have no scoring left and will be LUCKY to win 35. Whoever thinks they are a playoff team is straight up insane.

  
  Agreed. How good have Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison (sans Gilbert Arenas) featured teams been over the years? Cleveland fans continue to be blind. Lebron James was such a key part of everything he did. A lot of the success that the others had can be traced right to Lebron
• Footwedge

  LOL at all the Cav haters trying to rub salt in the wounds to the Cav fans. Funny as hell. These so called chatter experts are dumber than a box of rocks.
  
  What fun it will be watching team basketball again...and watching Mo and Boobie averaging 18 points a game..the development of JJ and the continual great play of AV. The Cavs will make the playoffs...and I look for true blooded, die hard Cav fan, Dan Gilber.t make a mid season play in February in hopes of shitting on Miami's parade.
• jordo212000

  

  Footwedge;419411 wrote:What fun it will be watching team basketball again...and watching Mo and Boobie averaging 18 points a game..the development of JJ and the continual great play of AV.

  
  You have to consider that Mo Williams got his 15 PPG last year with the other team's weaker defenders covering him. They had to because Lebron needed to be covered by somebody good. Now that Lebron is gone, the other team's star defender will be put on option #1 for the Cavs. Not good.
  
  They gotta get somebody else to take the pressure off the backcourt
• Footwedge

  jordo212000;419425 wrote:You have to consider that Mo Williams got his 15 PPG last year with the other team's weaker defenders covering him. They had to because Lebron needed to be covered by somebody good. Now that Lebron is gone, the other team's star defender will be put on option #1 for the Cavs. Not good.
  
  They gotta get somebody else to take the pressure off the backcourt

  So Mo touching the ball twice as much will have no effect on his production? You haters are too funny. 25 wins? Really? 25? Because they lost one player?
• hoops23

  

  jordo212000;419425 wrote:You have to consider that Mo Williams got his 15 PPG last year with the other team's weaker defenders covering him. They had to because Lebron needed to be covered by somebody good. Now that Lebron is gone, the other team's star defender will be put on option #1 for the Cavs. Not good.
  
  They gotta get somebody else to take the pressure off the backcourt

  
  You do understand Mo put up numbers in Milwaukee as well right?
  
  Mo is a very good regular season performer..
  
  I'm with Footwedge, it's going to be fun to watch this team. Especially if we can land Collison and/or Al Jefferson.
• jordo212000

  

  
  You do understand Mo put up numbers in Milwaukee as well right?
  
  Mo is a very good regular season performer..
  
  I'm with Footwedge, it's going to be fun to watch this team. Especially if we can land Collison and/or Al Jefferson.

  What was Mo's win percentage in Milwaukee?
• KnightXC1

  

  Not trying to rub anything in Cavs fans faces but you are nuts if you think Boobie Gibson is going to average 18 points a night haha.
• Footwedge

  jordo212000;419547 wrote:What was Mo's win percentage in Milwaukee?

  
  Exactly what is the relevance of that? What was the winning percentage of Steph Curry last year. Mo was an All Star 2 years ago.
• Footwedge

  KnightXC1;419550 wrote:Not trying to rub anything in Cavs fans faces but you are nuts if you think Boobie Gibson is going to average 18 points a night haha.

  Yeah..the guy who shoots 49% from 3ball land...who will now get 30 minutes a game won't get 18 per night. Ummm...OK.
• hoops23

  

  jordo212000;419547 wrote:What was Mo's win percentage in Milwaukee?

  
  What was Bosh's winning percentage in Toronto? How about Tyreke Evans in Sac-town? Derrick Rose in Chicago... I seriously hope you realize how dumb that comment was.
• jordo212000

  

  What was Mo's win percentage in Milwaukee?

  
  Exactly what is the relevance of that? What was the winning percentage of Steph Curry last year. Mo was an All Star 2 years ago.

  He was one of the guys in Milwaukee and they sucked. The point is a team with Mo as top banana can't win consistently.
  
  Same goes for Curry. Good complementary piece not anybody who can win a championship as the best player on team. And curry is waaaaaay better than Mo
• jordo212000

  

  Exactly what is the relevance of that? What was the winning percentage of Steph Curry last year. Mo was an All Star 2 years ago.

  He was one of the guys in Milwaukee and they sucked. The point is a team with Month as top banana can't win consistently.
  
  Same goes for Curry. Good complementary piece not anybody who can win a championship as the best player on team. And curry is waaaaaay better than Mo

  Should be Mo not month haha. My phone did that
• Footwedge

  hoops23;419557 wrote:What was Bosh's winning percentage in Toronto? How about Tyreke Evans in Sac-town? Derrick Rose in Chicago... I seriously hope you realize how dumb that comment was.

  And his most recent comments regarding Steph Curry are even dumber. All he does is say stupid shit to piss off emotionally charged Cleveland fans.
• KnightXC1

  

  Footwedge;419554 wrote:Yeah..the guy who shoots 49% from 3ball land...who will now get 30 minutes a game won't get 18 per night. Ummm...OK.

  
  So the backup PG is going to play 30 minutes a night? How many minutes will Mo Williams be playing then? Or Delonte West? 80% of open 3's came from a pass Lebron gave him and he was wide open. He won't be shooting 49% on threes this year nor will he average 18 points a night. Had you said Varejao, I may have given you the benefit of the doubt with Jamison and Williams but Gibson is incredibly one dimensioned and plays crappy defense. No 30 minutes a night nor 18 points for him.
• Footwedge

  jordo212000;419564 wrote:Should be Mo not month haha. My phone did that

  
  Why don't you remind us how childish Gilbert was again....but your "oh so classy" Reds organization led by big mouth Marty Brennaman's actions are just so peachy. Gilbert has nothin on Marty when when comes to shooting from the hip. But that's OK...it's all good...isn't it? Yeah...and Marge Schott....she was such a classy, dainty lady. LMAO.
• Footwedge

  KnightXC1;419568 wrote:So the backup PG is going to play 30 minutes a night? How many minutes will Mo Williams be playing then? Or Delonte West? 80% of open 3's came from a pass Lebron gave him and he was wide open. He won't be shooting 49% on threes this year nor will he average 18 points a night. Had you said Varejao, I may have given you the benefit of the doubt with Jamison and Williams but Gibson is incredibly one dimensioned and plays crappy defense. No 30 minutes a night nor 18 points for him.

  
  "Gibson plays crappy defense"...says who? You? You didn't watch many games last year did you? For the record, Daniel started 7 games in a row at the point...and the Cavs were unbeaten over that stretch. Run your mouth elsewhere.
• jordo212000

  

  And his most recent comments regarding Steph Curry are even dumber. All he does is say stupid shit to piss off emotionally charged Cleveland fans.

  Wow at your most recent comments regarding the Reds. Haha whatever. You sound ridiculous you know that?
  
  Come get me when Steph curry wins a championship as his team's best player. I don't know why I am wasting my breath with you. If you think a Mo Williams led team will make the playoffs, then you clearly aren't a credible source of NBA knowledge
  
  Again with the Marty Brennamen thing, he is a broadcaster and entertainer. He gets paid to be biased. Gilbert is an owner, its inexcusable for him to do what he did
• Mulva

  

  Footwedge;419554 wrote:Yeah..the guy who shoots 49% from 3ball land...who will now get 30 minutes a game won't get 18 per night. Ummm...OK.

  
  He played 30 minutes a game in 2007 and averaged 10 ppg (still shooting 44% on 3s).
  
  I agree you are nuts if you honestly think he will put up close to 20 a night.
• Footwedge

  jordo212000;419581 wrote:Wow at your most recent comments regarding the Reds. Haha whatever. You sound ridiculous you know that?
  
  Come get me when Steph curry wins a championship as his team's best player. I don't know why I am wasting my breath with you. If you think a Mo Williams led team will make the playoffs, then you clearly aren't a credible source of NBA knowledge
  
  Again with the Marty Brennamen thing, he is a broadcaster and entertainer. He gets paid to be biased. Gilbert is an owner, its inexcusable for him to do what he did

  
  
  Having fun yet troll? I suppose Marge Schott was just an entertainer too. Yeah...tell me again about how classy the Reds are. LMAO. I said the Cavs will make the playoffs next year...I stand by that statement. You said they would win 20/25 games because they lost one player. Yoo'll be running way from this site next year...just like Square Crazies did. Book it.
• Footwedge

  Mulva;419591 wrote:He played 30 minutes a game in 2007 and averaged 10 ppg (still shooting 44% on 3s).
  
  I agree you are nuts if you honestly think he will put up close to 20 a night.

  listen jerkoff...I said 18 points a night....and who took 35% of all the shots 3 years ago? Captain Kangaroo? Listen up clueless....Someone else will be taking those 32 shots a game. A lot of idiots on here this evening.
• Azubuike24

  

  Footwedge;419599 wrote:listen jerkoff...A lot of idiots on here this evening.

  
  The irony.
• jordo212000

  

  Footwedge;419595 wrote:Having fun yet troll? I suppose Marge Schott was just an entertainer too. Yeah...tell me again about how classy the Reds are. LMAO. I said the Cavs will make the playoffs next year...I stand by that statement. You said they would win 20/25 games because they lost one player. Yoo'll be running way from this site next year...just like Square Crazies did. Book it.

  
  No. Marge Schott was not an entertainer. She was an owner, and she wasn't very good person. She was a bigot. However, that was a looooong time ago and the ownership has changed hands a few times since then. It's a new organization and it is run by people with class. If you go back long enough you can find bad apples at any organization.
  
  That 1 player you are speaking of was arguably the best player in the league (Kobe has something to say about that). You subtract his production and what he brings to the table and you see that the Cavs are in bad shape with him gone.
  
  You keep talking about Boobie, if he is so good why did he hardly play last year? If a guy can get you 18 pts you don't bury him on the bench. Besides the whole PPG argument is silly anyways. Somebody has to score all those points. So yeah, somebody on your team (Mo, Jamison, or Boobie haha) will score some points for them next year. Look at the Wizards, Andre Blatche never sniffed the court until after fire sale and he instantly started scoring points for a bad team.
• jordo212000

  

  hoops23;419557 wrote:What was Bosh's winning percentage in Toronto? How about Tyreke Evans in Sac-town? Derrick Rose in Chicago... I seriously hope you realize how dumb that comment was.

  
  The sad thing is, all of those guys are great players and their teams weren't even good. Mo Williams isn't better than one of those guys. You think he is going to lead you to the playoffs? Lol thanks for making my argument for me.
  
  Mo's Win percentage in Milwaukee was .378 by the way.
• KnightXC1

  

  Footwedge;419576 wrote:"Gibson plays crappy defense"...says who? You? You didn't watch many games last year did you? For the record, Daniel started 7 games in a row at the point...and the Cavs were unbeaten over that stretch. Run your mouth elsewhere.

  
  Seen him play plenty and yes he does play crappy defense. Hell Rodney Stuckey abused the hell out of him the last 2 years and I don't care for Stuckey much at all. Great that he started 7 games at point guard, yet he had about as much to do with winning those games as Brian Scalabrine did when the Celtics won in 08. He is one dimensional, plays crappy defense and was only worth a damn because Lebron drew double or triple teams then would dish it to a wide open Gibson. But guess what, there isn't one player on the Cavs worth double teaming anymore so Gibson will be guarded and be exploited by many different guards and players in the league. Come back from fantasy world and realize the Cavs now stink, which is a shame for the city and it's true fans.