Stan Van Gundy talkin sly about Lebron, while praising Kevin Durant and Kobe

• 2quik4u

  

  you could add tiger to that list, would you agree?
• sleeper

  

  Ah yes, Tiger Woods definitely has a brand.
• just_a_swimmer

  

  Either way I tend to agree. I think LBJ is disrespecting the Cavs and all of us fans. If you are going to leave then just go. If you are staying then you should have said that 3 days ago so the Cavs would have had a chance of maybe landing a Joe Johnson or Carlos Boozer but no it is all about Lebron. If he does stay and the cavs don't get anyone else he has no one to blame but himself. God knows I wanted him to stay and always felt he would until the last few hours but I have to say that he has really disappointed me with all this hoopla. At this point I don't even care anymore. I'm a Cleveland fan and have learned to live with disappointment.
• 2quik4u

  

  yea well here is the problem for Lebron
  
  
  Mj 6 titles
  
  Tiger 14 majors
  
  Lebron jack shit
  
  
  Jordan and Tiger built up their brand by winning, the fuck has Lebron done? self fucking promotion
• jordo212000

  

  just_a_swimmer;414761 wrote:Either way I tend to agree. I think LBJ is disrespecting the Cavs and all of us fans. If you are going to leave then just go. If you are staying then you should have said that 3 days ago so the Cavs would have had a chance of maybe landing a Joe Johnson or Carlos Boozer but no it is all about Lebron.

  
  Lebron has been known to do boneheaded things like that... He could have had Trevor Ariza last summer but he was non-committal about his future. Instead they ended up with Jamario Moon, et. al
• Fab1b

  

  just_a_swimmer;414761 wrote:Either way I tend to agree. I think LBJ is disrespecting the Cavs and all of us fans. If you are going to leave then just go. If you are staying then you should have said that 3 days ago so the Cavs would have had a chance of maybe landing a Joe Johnson or Carlos Boozer but no it is all about Lebron. If he does stay and the cavs don't get anyone else he has no one to blame but himself. God knows I wanted him to stay and always felt he would until the last few hours but I have to say that he has really disappointed me with all this hoopla. At this point I don't even care anymore. I'm a Cleveland fan and have learned to live with disappointment.

  Hits nail on the head!!
• sleeper

  

  2quik4u;414764 wrote:yea well here is the problem for Lebron
  
  
  Mj 6 titles
  
  Tiger 14 majors
  
  Lebron jack shit
  
  
  Jordan and Tiger built up their brand by winning, the fuck has Lebron done? self fucking promotion

  
  I know isn't that amazing? He's so good he doesn't even need to win a team award.
  
  LOL
• jordo212000

  

  Bill Simmons on Lebron and Durant:

  Cleveland fans will never forgive LeBron, nor should they. He knows better than anyone what kind of sports anguish they have suffered over the years. Losing LeBron on a contrived one-hour show would be worse than Byner's fumble, Jose Mesa, the Game 5 meltdown against Boston, The Drive, The Shot and everything else. At least those stomach-punch moments weren't preordained, unless you believe God hates Cleveland (entirely possible, by the way). This stomach-punch moment? Calculated. By a local kid they loved, defended and revered.
  
  It would be unforgivable. Repeat: unforgivable. I don't have a dog in this race -- as a Celtics fan, I wanted to see him go anywhere but Chicago -- but LeBron doing this show after what happened in the 2010 playoffs actually turned me against him. No small feat. I was one of his biggest defenders. Not anymore.
  
  And here's where I really worry, because I don't think LeBron James has anyone in his life with enough juice to hurl his or her body in front of the concept of "I'm going to announce during a one-hour live show that I'm playing somewhere other than Cleveland." It's the best and worst thing about him -- he has remained fiercely loyal to his high school friends, but at the same time, he's surrounded by people his own age who don't stand up to him and don't know any better. Picking anyone other than Cleveland on this show would be the meanest thing any athlete has ever done to a city. But he might. Assuming he's not malicious, and that he's just a self-absorbed kid who apparently lost all perspective, that doesn't make him much different than most child stars who became famous before they could legally drink -- or, for that matter, Tiger Woods. That's just the way this stuff works. Too much, too fast, too soon. You don't lose your way all at once; just a little at a time. Then one day you look up and there's a TMZ photo spread with 15 of your mistresses, or you're agreeing to stab an entire city in the heart on a one-hour television show.
  
  (When Kevin Durant announced his own five-year, $86 million extension with an endearingly simple tweet yesterday, we all had the same thought: "Now that's how it's done." Pretty sad that an NBA star stood out for being humble and only caring about basketball.)